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July 1, 2010 at 6:17 pm #10625
To give me a similar floor area to my SFS, I would need 7 octopods at a cost of £186,060 and that still would not give me as much space as I think necessary, if I were paying to lift every gramme into space, I would also say astronauts will like living like battery hens, but I must consider living in a seastead for the rest of my life.
The sea is a dangerous place and lives will probably be lost if family members go swimming in the open ocean, inshore, there is a significant risk of being run over by boats, that’s how Kirsty macColl was killed.June 30, 2010 at 3:36 am #10622
At the current gold price, your octopod costs £243,650, I very much doubt that my SFS will cost as much as that, and remember, you cannot step out of your seastead and go for a walk, so you need more space at sea than you do on land, if only to find a little peace and quiet from your family once or twice a day.
You also need space to grow food, generate electricity, collect, store, and purify water, space for waste treatment, if you want to be mobile, you will have 2 huge diesel engines plus fuel tanks, more general storage than you need on land, and probably more for things you will not realise you need until you need them.June 29, 2010 at 7:38 pm #10615xns wrote:
ssteve, isn’t tour perception of a single family seastead basically a houseboat?
King Shannon of the Constitutional Monarchy of Logos.
No, I imagine a single family seastead to be at least 20metres by 20 metres square or in diameter, and three storeys high, not cheap but spacious enough to not feel like a prison.June 22, 2010 at 3:01 pm #10535
If a nation wanted to take control of a seastead they might start with a cyber attack, planting incriminating “stuff” on seastead computers so they had a “ligitimate excuse to come in and do whatever they wanted, if that fails a special forces team could come aboard unseen and sabotage necessary equipment, a blockade intended to starve the seastead into submission would also be effective.June 12, 2010 at 2:39 am #10446
It depends on what the seastead purpose is, I would expect most single family seasteads to be in coastal waters, under the protection of a recognised state.
Commercial seasteads will be as close to their customers as possible, only the largest seasteads would be in international waters, doing things that might be illegal in territorial waters or simply evading taxes and ultimately becoming a sovereign state itself.June 12, 2010 at 2:31 am #10445
The only seasteads that need visitors to provide a medical report and DNA sample should be brothelsteads.
Can you imagine a medical sevices seatead rejecting people who are not in perfect health?June 12, 2010 at 2:12 am #10444
OK, I almost read to the end of this thread, but cannot resist the urge to comment any longer.
When I run my own seastead, I will not require the extreme forms of ID suggested in this thread, I will only require a fingerprint, I will back up this system by paying everybody to inform on everybody else.
I will sell tickets to executions and auction off the job of chief executioner, one of the perks of this job will be that they get the offenders possessions.June 8, 2010 at 3:40 am #10387
We could organise bicycle races on the water.http://www.youtube.com/watch
The waves will be a real challenge, and it may come down to the last person to fall off their bike being the winner.
Sharks will be a hazard.June 5, 2010 at 5:59 am #10374
It should be possible to build artificial islands using natural species of plants, start with a reed raft on which to grow the various plants that will become an island. it will take years but should not require GM.June 4, 2010 at 3:47 pm #10373
Downloaded it again and it seems complete, but there are blank areas which may have lost their text/graphics.June 3, 2010 at 11:14 pm #10370
I just tried to download this PDF and page 8 was missing, is there anything on page 8?June 3, 2010 at 4:20 pm #10368
Thanks for your reply, it was my intention that others would have free access through each rooftop to reach other SFS’s without charge or hindrance. my SFS includes a workshop that could be used to earn a living and a market stall could be set up on the roof if the product will fit through the doors, otherwise one section of wall on the first floor pivots down to become a loading bay with electric hoist, this prevents SFS’s being linked more than two units wide, but a rectangular block with “holes” in it allows 80 SFS’s to link with all having their loading bays accessible yet only requiring an area of 140 x 100 metres, so it could be surrounded by a floating breakwater and possibly wave power station.June 3, 2010 at 2:01 pm #10363
It is unreasonable to compare the sort of firefights a seastead militia might become involved in with the revolutionary war, they had single shot muskets, swords and inaccurate cannons, they also were a more honourable people with higher moral and ethical standards.
Today. victims do not even see their killers, Where is the honour in kidnap and murder if the ransom is not paid. Where is the morality in murdering captives and casualties of war rather than look after them as might be expected from a professional fighting force.
If we stand up to any nationalities armed forces we will be slaugtered in our sleep, if a criminal gang tries to extort protection money from us, how will we defend the seastead from a small bomb planted on it or a mortar. missile or torpedo, if we want any hope of defending ourselves, there can be no half measures, we must be ready to engage those threats we think we can handle and surrender to those we cannot.
A seastead will be the most vulnerable community in the history of civilisation.June 3, 2010 at 12:00 pm #10364
I have a concept for an SFS, I don’t know if it will be stable, but I would like your opinion of the idea of a rooftop ” right of way”.
The SFS will be 10 mtrs square with walls right on the edge to maximise use of space, it will have 3 floors and a roof, the top floor will be a hydroponic greenhouse for the production of fruit and vegetables so it will have transparent walls and most of the roof will also be transparent, a 2 metre wide path around the edge of the roof will allow people to walk on the roof.
The SFS will have fenders and flexible couplings to enable adjacent SFS’s to be securely joined with no gap between them, this may create problems with noisy neighbours, but that’s not the subject of this post. There will be a safety rail around the edge of the roof with unlocked gates to allow people to cross from one SFS to it’s neighbour, and in this way people will be able to walk to any other SFS in the community.
An alternative would be to have walkways between SFS’s allowing some separation, but the connection may not be strong enough to withstand flexing due to wave action.
Would you object to people crossing your property en-route to another SFS, it would be a way of creating community spirit and making new friends, but if the majority consider it Trespass then the idea is a non-starter.May 29, 2010 at 8:33 pm #10327
I have just read through this thread and I have seen talk of contracts and “millions in gold” (under the mattress), what sort of business do you think you will be doing on your seastead.
I would think that “normal” business deals will be difficult to arrange with the client unwilling to come to you, prefering to deal with someone more conveniently located.
We may get a few tourists looking for a souvenir of their trip, and should be happy to accept whatever currency they’ve brought.
I would think many seasteaders would be looking for freedom, both from government and the rat race.