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  • #23892
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    So where is the moderator now?

    #23891
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    We are getting to the intelligent par of seasteading.

    #23890
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    your mother

    #23887
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    I object to the F-word too that shredder used earlier.
    How low is this thread going to go?
    Can someone clean that out?

    #23878
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    I object to the words: we and us.
    (Who do you mean “we”, white man? Do you have a turtle in your pocket?)

    #23876
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    Hi;
    You can operate whatever you want.
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    This thread is OK with me, and Zutai, and Ocean is OK with me.
    If you do not like this thread, go start one for yourself.
    The cyberspace is even bigger than the ocean.

    #23873
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    Well, I do not disagree with Ocean as much, just rather no contest. Fish farming does not exclude fishing.
    I could write more, but that will build nothing.

    #23872
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    At this time I disagree with Ellmer and I disagree with Ocean.

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    My opinion is to buld a geodesic spere. The base units would be triangles made of
    rigid polyurethane foam covered with ferro cement and some steel pipes inside the foam.
    The reinforcing pipes would form the core of the geodesic dome.
    Each triagle would be bouyant enough to float, in case the dome falls apart it would not sink.
    Or not all of it would sink.
    The dome would be partially above the water, about 20%. The rest of the dome would be flooded.
    The under water part of the dome could be used for farming fish, nor else.
    The above the water part would be possible to seel water tight in case the need to submerge the
    whole sphere.
    Structural triagle part of the dome, spere could be prefabricated on land and assembled in water.
    Different sizes of domes could be built. I would start with a small one.
    The fish farm square, that was built in Hawaii is , I guess 27 feet diameter.

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    I agree with Ocean. I disagree with Elmer.

    #23864
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    Thank you for posting; Peter. I will send you an email.

    #23856
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    Ocean; I like idea of “…what’s next?”
    -)))
    Elmer; I like the dutch pod hotel. Specially the one with the woman in it.
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    cube or sphere, I like th outdoors. Though I like comfort too, like bathroom,
    washing machine and dryer and other stuff. I like sailing and scuba diving and
    swimming (no sharks) kayaking … etc… So I would come out of the sphere
    just like I get out of the cube too.

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    May be a little more explanation about the spherical structure:
    …most likely made of ferro-cement
    …modular building, where parts could be made on land and assembled in water
    …the floating could be adjusted back and forth to be partially submerged and to completely
    submerged to depth 2-3 times the height of the waves
    …it would be anchored to the sea floor or anchored with sea-anchors in deep water
    …some engines with propellers would be necessary to hold position

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    Zutai;
    That appears to be true what you wrote about the king. I think, that is called: captain , on a vessel.
    There is a difference between a vessel and a floating structure. I thin international law (marine-time law)
    recognizes it. Florida state law definitely recognizes this difference, and has different registrations for them.
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    As long as a king or a captain goes, the political point of a seastead would be that individuals can come and
    leave as they wish. So when there is a bad captain, and there are bad rules, that captain can enjoy loneliness.
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    The start would be probably individual seasteads, and the builder would be the owner and the captain.
    I would like to use the word captain instead of king. The captain can determine who may come aboard, and under
    what conditions.
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    The reason of why there is no physical seasteads built yet, may be that persons cannot agree on the rules of the
    seastead. Kind of like “if I do not get this or that, then I am not interested building the seastead.
    This could also be an escape and a justification for persons who have lots of words but little actions.
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    In my opinion ocean farming is a way to overcome this.
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    I think, the first thing would be necessary is to build something strong enough to support life in open ocean conditions
    under any weather. A spherical structure seems to be reasonable. This spherical structure would be mostly submerged,
    so big waves would roll over it. Further more it would be beneficial if the sphere could be submerged completely
    under water depth 2 or 3 times the height of the waves. The first and experimental structures would need to be small.
    I think it could become a kind of ocean farming seastead. It could be a single person operation. And there could be
    multiples of these in close proximity to each other. Each ocean farming seastead would have a captain, and there the
    plot thickens: how would these captains cooperate and get along with each other and with the main land.
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    Well, something like this.
    This is not a discussion or question and answer kind of communication.
    It is more like lamentation.
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    Respectfully
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    #23848
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    Ocean;
    Thank you.

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