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February 27, 2015 at 12:37 am #25883
read more on emerging press strategies… Read more on the “this is not true seasteading” argument… Nobody knows what good will come out – if we don’t try it…my recommendation try but be well aware where the reefs are the project needs to be steered free of…February 26, 2015 at 11:16 am #25861
Wayne Gramlich – went off screen and off funds
– his bad attitude towards press might be a key factor in this development…The people who created the “techno-libertarians go oceanic myth” got a “a million of investment dollars to do more of it” – is that telling us something…? – we might think a bit about that fact…
February 26, 2015 at 11:11 am #25860
- This reply was modified 4 days, 1 hour ago by ellmer - http://yook3.com.
….fear of being ridiculized in press…
learn from one of the big it does not matter what press is talking about you it only matters that press keeps talking about you…February 26, 2015 at 5:11 am #25857
Sounds like the kind of proposal that is “interesting” for investors. They allways come with “local interest” and with “a field of interest” your proposal is Florida and marine related. If this fits with the investor preference the next thing will be questions about the nature and setup of the project, pilot projects run, local examples, that support the claim, fields of risk, opt in minimum, opt out strategy and damage control if the projects fails. What will you answer?February 25, 2015 at 8:57 pm #25855
Suggestion: Can we have this forum back on purpose…
…seasteading return on investment, investment risk, opt in, opt out…
Investor proposal list and then zoom into the different fields with interesting topic related talk…February 25, 2015 at 2:14 pm #25832
…how do i know that smith will not join my board of investors…
well your above posts strongly suggested that you will not … but you are right sometimes the guy with the worst attidude towards the project is the first to opt in…so maybe there is still hope…February 25, 2015 at 12:54 pm #25811
…forum meta rule suggestion…reach goal of investor attention…
non of this was adressed to you nor intended as censorship, take it as a “suggestion how to better the efficiency of forums in general” it is not about “free speech” it is about “reaching a forum goal”. I personally think that “spark” is a “valuable contribution” rather than a forum pain…February 25, 2015 at 8:08 am #25778February 25, 2015 at 7:47 am #25777
…investment is about the frontman, credibility and capacity to deliver…
Investment is not about papers and plans it is about credibility. This is why ranting posts, wining posts, agression posts, stupid posts, funny posts, off topic posts, etc… are not helping to achive the goal to make seasteading happen…only thread discipline, links, and informed posting does…February 25, 2015 at 6:17 am #25775
…cementing the belief that seasteaders are all crazy…
Given the numbers which part of the “worldwide oceanic investment volumes” is going in projects titled “seasteading” – this seems to be exactly what “investors are thinking right now already”…February 25, 2015 at 6:03 am #25773
…investors, forums sending them fleeing…
Ken, that is a problem because the idea of having a seasteading forum is obviously to become a reference point where investors and developers can meet and interchange ideas, present projects, and press agents can get informed. I hope with the discourse based forums we can deliver some of this. There is an investor pool of 70 billion per year exploring how to create real estate at sea. There are high profile movement figures (Peter Thiel, Patri Friedman, Richard Branson, Elon Musk,) that NEVER comment anything on these forums – that is not a good sign. Even the “informed engineers” (Elco Hoogendoorn, Miguel Llamas) seem to have turned their back on the forums in the last six years. In earlier days there where aquaculture experts commenting here, all gone now, i still remember people like Pastor Jason building up seasteading movements and outposts, never seen again… what is the strategy of the TSI to lift up the “investor reading worthyness” of the forums ? – any segmentation in planning ?February 24, 2015 at 12:54 pm #25761
in fact my investors do…they think i have enough credibility… and they give me 3 digit sums to do more of it…
This is the point where a succesful phase 1 key conversation takes you.
I understand that you will not want to join my investor consortium – but that does not bother me. I never aimed for anything else than convince about 1% of a “random public” – i don’t need thousands of investors – I am ok with a group of just five. Equally do not need to have the applause nor the approbation and interest of everybody for my projects – i am just fine.February 24, 2015 at 8:41 am #25755
Exactly that is what a “interested investor” would do – check on the “worst case scenario” to get a idea of the loss scenario. If you could sell your floating real estate only at the price of a building lot far from the city center beside the wastewater channel where the price is only USD 350 and not as primary real estate at USD 17.000 – would this still be “good business” – and as the numbers show – in this case USD 1 input will convert to USD 2.1 output – still great business.February 24, 2015 at 8:06 am #25754
Sure it is quite obvious from your posts that you are not an investor – a “real investor” would return my argument with a short line “give me an account to wire a first budget release of USD 100.000 – waiting for your project progress fotos documenting the conversion into floating real estate worth USD 10 million …”
There is a value in salon talk to educate, especially since this forum has 750 silent users …
I am good with investors – i am beyond seasteading phase1 because i did the phase 1 talk successfully already. This is merely to educate how to follow my footsteps…February 24, 2015 at 6:34 am #25751
Now we have a “investor talk” going on here. I fired out my “1 second attention span argument” – “USD 1 converts to USD 102 when investing in floating real estate in the Bay of Cartagena”, and you two “got interested but called me out on credibility”. This is exactly the “mechanics of investor talk”. It is now my turn as developer to bring proof of the following:
A ) That i can create floating real estate at a rate of one squaremeter per day in a building site that costs USD 166 per day.
B) That the market value of this floating real estate squaremeter is USD 17.000 according to Cartagena standard real estate prices .
Once i have done this – you either opt in / or opt out.
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