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  • #11377
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    Found this article on WSJ. Apparently somebody’s retrofitted an oil rig into a hotel for scuba diving. It can be done!

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703376504575491662467118800.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_editorsPicks_1

    #9519
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    I was more thinking the wave energy would transfer to the rings and the platform would float still in the water. I’ll have to do some small-scale tests, but I doubt it’ll actually work like I was thinking. Still, the electricity thing is new to me, and if it can be done, then great!

    #8889
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    Hey, it occured to me, since most of the people on this thread look like they’re all into the whole environment-thingy, don’t like government solutions to problems, and want something immediately profitable, why not start a service rating various companies/products on their eco-friendliness. Not silly EPA “No CO2″ rules, actual stats on how much runoff, air particulate, and other stuff a company produces. As you build reputability (no clue how to do that), companies will start wanting you to rate them in a certain way. Companies you rate pooly will lose customers due to the damage to their reputation your poor rating will do them, and the opposite effect will happen to companies you rate highly. This should be a relatively low-overhead business, especially if you stick to posting your results online and do your own legwork. Building the reputation’s going to be the hardest part.

    Hope this helps.

    Oh, and if you do this and it turns out to be ungodly, incredibly profitable, I want royalties.

    #8888
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    Hey. I don’t know if this is the sort of thing you were looking for, but I hope it helps anyway. Basically, I was thinking to (1) design a single-family stead and profit by selling them and (2) developing methods for people to grow enough food to survive on their own in a small space (i.e. one of the steads I just sold them). The idea is that it will promote a free society by giving men the ability to say “no”- to pick their own location and people with whom they can associate (thus breaking the bonds of distasteful society) and to live on their own. Maybe not comfortably- that’s where the incentive to form a society is- but still able to survive entirely alone. With these capabilities, a ‘steader will no longer be able to be forced into contracts except at gunpoint, and thus freedom will stand a far greater chance of thriving than in the current land-choked system. Maybe it’s naive, maybe it’s a gross oversimplification, and maybe I’m rambling, but that’s my hope.

    #8860
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    I was referring more to the colonies founded before they knew what they were doing. As for the need to be rich to get a seastead, that’s why I’m planning on getting decent financial footing (passive income) first.

    #8854
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    Weren’t the early American colonists the rich nobels? Sure, the pioneers to the West were dirt poor, but considering the infrastructure difficulties rich colonists seems like a decent parallel.

    #8846
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    Hope it helps!

    #8838
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    Hey, I had an idea for selling the various components of a seastead- power/water/food systems, etc.- to land-based customers to speed up the development process. xnsdvd suggested I look here, and it’s very promising and I wish you the best of luck. Heck, once I’m mobile I’ll probably want to join you. Anyway, you might still benefit from something you can sell land-based customers. Off the top of my head:

    • Home Water Recycling System
    • Personal Power Generator
    • Indoor Food Garden

    From the actual ‘stead engineering, I figure you can make such “mid-phase products” as:

    • Stable Aquarium “Island” Decoration
    • Floating Platform for an Pool
    • Spar-Based Mobility System for Mobile Oil Rigs

    And as I said, this is just off the top of my head. There’s bound to be more. Hope it helps.

    #8837
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    It’s not quite what I was thinking of- you’re business looks essentially looks like the “baystead” phase predicted in the Seasteading Founding Document- but it still looks amazing and I wish you the best of luck. I was thinking more along the lines of land-usable components. For instance:

    • Home Water Recycling System
    • Personal Power Generator
    • Indoor Food Garden

    From the actual ‘stead engineering, I figure you can “mid-phase products:”

    • Stable Aquarium “Island” Decoration
    • Floating Platform for an Pool
    • OSDI BaySteads (Oh, wait…)
    • Spar-Based Mobility System for Mobile Oil Rigs

    There’s bound to be more, these are just what I could think of off the top of my head. I figured somebody’d already thought of something similar, I just wasn’t sure, thanks for pointint me in your direction.

    #8816
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    There are plenty of research stations on Antarctifca. Why not try to start a ‘stead as a “cultural/psychological experiment” to study the conditions of ordinary people living in cramped quarters and a hostile environment? You could even use it to “test” various different social systems. I’m just sayin’…

    #8800
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    If you’re going to have a survival suit and all the Rapture parallels anyway, you’d might as well go all out. I don’t know how you’d get the drill thingy working, though…

    #8799
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    If you’re going to basically live off of a giant block of ice, why not the biggest, least melty one? Icebergs don’t strike me as particularly mobile or controllable anyway, so your alternatives are floating and not-so-floating. You’d still have the same trouble with food growth, etc that you’d get from a conventionable ‘stead, plus lots and lots of cold. On the other hand, except for some environmental researchers not very many people’d bother you. Also, there’re bonus points if you name your ice-stead the Fortress of Solitude.

    #8671
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    Just live entirely off of eggs, cabbage, and huge reserves of Spam. Then pirates and government agents won’t come anywhere NEAR your boat.

    #8608
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    Good to see it’s allready being done. I see what you mean about consumers leaving the US rather than proffessionals, as our costs tend to be higher and people in general tend to follow the money, sadly not freedom. Again, thanks!

    #8489
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    First, I have to make the usual “Completely free market hasn’t been tried, governments keep turning it into protectionism” speech.

    Second, Murray Rothbard’s For a New Liberty uses Austrian Economics to explain the first of your worries (boom and bust cycles happen when banks loan way more than they have, something encouraged by governments and I kind of think counts as fraud) and tort reform & property rights to cover pollution. As for class warfare, that’s more of a consequence of collectivist mentality than economics. Any time you start thinking in terms of groups you get into “us vs. them” mentality that yields all types of warfare. Go individualist, and you don’t care about you being poor and someone else being rich as much because you’re trying to be rich.

    Hope this helps.

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