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  • #15342
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    Hey guys, haven’t been on for months, but I saw about this in The i : http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/sinking-pacific-island-kiribati-considers-moving-to-a-manmade-alternative-2350964.html

    I was going to start a new topic but here is one already, so I’ll just link to the article.

    This really opens up oppurtunities, though, as the definition of a country may be changed to envelope Kiribati as a fully oceanic nation.

    “Fortis cadere, cedere non potest”

    “A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield”

    -Latin Proverb

    #11639
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    Ok Elspru, nice but is it really necessary to phrase it so strangely? Surely the idea of a constitution is to be clear and to dictate law, not to confuse.

    “Fortis cadere, cedere non potest”

    “A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield”

    -Latin Proverb

    #11612
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    Anybody else recognise parts of that from 1984 (book)?

    “Fortis cadere, cedere non potest”

    “A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield”

    -Latin Proverb

    #11611
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    Nice idea. Not sure you could make a profit.

    “Fortis cadere, cedere non potest”

    “A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield”

    -Latin Proverb

    #11472
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    Let’s not forget Comrade Conkergrave, Nuts-in-cheeks’ “faithful” advisor who is secretly conspiring to return the country to the lead of the miserly but influential Bushytail, which he will benefit greatly from in the ways of power.

    I think it was about slavery, but, you know, there’s no way to be sure… oh wait…

    “Fortis cadere, cedere non potest”

    “A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield”

    -Latin Proverb

    #11426
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    A slave is not a slave if he has agreed to it – then he would be a servant.

    I agree. Volunteer governments are the way to go, I think.

    “Fortis cadere, cedere non potest”

    “A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield”

    -Latin Proverb

    #11393
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    Suspicion and strange precautions will alienate seasteaders from eachother. There has to be another way to deter pirates. Anyway, I would assume most trade would take place in ports and if a boat comes to board you, no matter their intentions, I would assume most people would keep their distance, unless it is a pre-arranged meeting with a trusted person.

    “Fortis cadere, cedere non potest”

    “A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield”

    -Latin Proverb

    #11385
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    And God knows we don’t need any insane slavers in the community.

    “Fortis cadere, cedere non potest”

    “A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield”

    -Latin Proverb

    #11384
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    Despite what many governments may want, it is a free world and there is always a way of escaping your bonds (taxes, in this case). As long as we can renounce our ties to our countries, we can do what we want. Tell me, can the tax man get at you if you are no longer under his employer’s control? Probably not.

    “Fortis cadere, cedere non potest”

    “A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield”

    -Latin Proverb

    #11366
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    Ah, but I am not a US citizen. Anyway, I found this on a US government website:

    B. ELEMENTS OF RENUNCIATION

    A person wishing to renounce his or her U.S. citizenship must voluntarily and with intent to relinquish U.S. citizenship:

    1. appear in person before a U.S. consular or diplomatic officer,
    2. in a foreign country (normally at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate); and
    3. sign an oath of renunciation

    Renunciations that do not meet the conditions described above have no legal effect. Because of the provisions of section 349(a)(5), Americans cannot effectively renounce their citizenship by mail, through an agent, or while in the United States.

    A lot of countries wont care (I would think) and there are so many ways you could blackmail them. For instance, many countries hold their independence as a thing of pride. Tell the press that the government is being hypocritical, that they are preaching independence while crushing it behind the public’s back. It could create a political scandal, and would at the same time make the public sympathetic to our cause.

    “Fortis cadere, cedere non potest”

    “A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield”

    -Latin Proverb

    #11365
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    In some cases, a child may be unable to make a responsible decision, which is when somebody should step in. But I entirely agree that government social workers should not be able to simply say that a child is being neglected or his/her parents are unable to take care of them, as this is often not the case. Even if it is, should a child not have the right to say that they would prefer to stay where they are?

    “Fortis cadere, cedere non potest”

    “A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield”

    -Latin Proverb

    #11353
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    Ok, this has probably already been said, but I really don’t have the time to read through fifteen pages of answers, so here goes.

    I have, in the past, been sceptical about the way we would be treated if we just established our own nation without support and approval from other countries, however, I have since changed my views, and now I say, damn what they think, damn what they say, countries cannot simply shun us for becoming independent. We do not need a base, we do not need land. We will become a nation of nomads if we have to, and sometimes, I think that this is the answer. All we need is a set of laws and a flag. Whoever breaks the laws, loses the right to carry a flag. As long as we sail the oceans, we do not need to be citizens of some god damned political mess. We do not need to pay taxes on what we earn, on what we already own! We do not need to pay taxes to fix roads when we use none! We need not be privy to laws that bog us down in our own misfortune, hold us down when everybody would have an easier time of it if we were allowed to stand! We can already be free. All we need, is a little push.

    Rome wasn’t built in a day, true, but this can be.

    “Fortis cadere, cedere non potest”

    “A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield”

    -Latin Proverb

    #11348
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    tusavision wrote:

    That’s the beauty of anarchy. None of us have to agree on anything. The only “law” is that any attempt to excercise influence over others will be met with force. As the world should be.

    fair enough.

    “Fortis cadere, cedere non potest”

    “A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield”

    -Latin Proverb

    #11339
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    Even in an anarchy, slavers should be punished. It is not a question of “want” it is rather a question of what you must do to live in peace with yourself. I, personally, could not stand by while people are enslaved right under my nose, against their will and against nature.

    “Fortis cadere, cedere non potest”

    “A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield”

    -Latin Proverb

    #11321
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    I completely agree about Dubai. I know people who want to live there, I assume ignorant of the worker situation, and, although it is not their fault, I cannot help but think they are utter w***ers every time they mention it, and silently curse their ignorance while they go on about how brilliant it is. Due to the link between seasteading and the extensions of dubai into the water, I think we should do something to raise awareness, although it will probably never happen.

    “Fortis cadere, cedere non potest”

    “A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield”

    -Latin Proverb

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