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  • #23817
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    Hi Justin,

    Welcome.

    I would say that the best way to get involved is to participate. Also please keep in mind that somehow, at this moment, there is a sort of a “void” in any practical active seasteading activity around here.

    #23811
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    Spark,..whatever rocks your sphere, man :)

    #23801
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    True ellmer,

    But a bit out of context, lol, :) The man is trying to do something on a $10k-$15K start up capital (Low cost DYIS)…

    And that cash won’t built much (forget about marina). In fact without $50k is would be very hard to even get on the water in order to make a buck. And even with that, the final product can’t be more than a bait barge, a Burgerstead (meaning, in general, a pontoon that’s gonna serve food, drinks and ice) or a bayside hangout place that can charge a small fee for people who want to fish and sunbath.

    #23800
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    To me, the economics of the whole seasteading concept is based on being a “free trading zone”, as you well describe it above, ideally started as a baystead and growing from there.

    In terms of location, and in the context of TSI working on the Floating City Project my personal opinion is that the Bay of Cartagena will be a better location than the Gulf of Fonseca. I say so by judging from the prospective where TSI is coming from…

    With other words, if the Floating City (FC) is planned to be a dynamic, urban, high tech, high growth, profit making oriented seastead, than the Bay of Cartagena would be the place to be due to close proximity to “as such” (Cartagena City). And it seems to me that TSI is aiming for that concept, so far…

    If the FC is planned to be a laid back, vacation type “village at sea”, than the Gulf of Fonsec would do.

    But, the reality is that the FC can be both of the above concepts only in Cartagena Bay while only the latter in the Gulf of Fonseca, I think.

    #23797
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    What would be the purpose of using shipping containers if you plan to cover them in ferrocement? I mean, why not just build in ferrocement only and save some money….A used 40 ft. shipping container is about $2,000.00.

    Or, if you really need a mold, why not just use plywood which is much cheaper and versatile (you can build various shapes of hull molds with much better hydrodynamic properties than a shipping container)

    Anyway, I might have a building location for you, depending of how much space you need. It is located in West Palm Beach FL.

    #23795
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    Peter,

    Paradoxically, the “entity” operated as a “free governing colony” inside the territorial water (or EEZ) of an existing nation would be a corporation. :)

    #23789
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    It doesn’t work like that…

    First and foremost, you should go to the closest CG station and find out what the local regulations are regarding anchoring (mooring) in the area you want to be in. If it’s OK and it’s free anchorage, than you’re set. If you are a business, find out from the county/state/federal/etc what regulations are in place for running as such in that location, and take it from there.

    You can also try nonprofit status (exploration, environmental, academic, etc) for a more relax attitude toward your presence there from local authorities…

    Now, I live in Florida and I have no clue of how much law enforcement is up there in Strait Juan De Fuca. But, judging by its location in the middle of nowhere, how bad can it be if you behave and follow the rule of law?

    #23784
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    I see.

    Anyway, my view is that if you will built a small colony on a barge, out in the Straight Juan De Fuca or near the Machias Seal Islands, you will be the proud owner of such colony :)

    #23782
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    I was working on something but is on hold for now due to the fact that I got involved in another venture. I really don’t know of any other seasteading projects going on right now….

    #23777
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    Zutai,

    Anywhere you go, oceanfront property is very expensive. Not only that, but building a marina (labor & materials) is also expensive, plus, there is a lots of federal, state and local red tape and environmental regulations, not to mention competition and the fact that all around the US there is a mafia like organization called Port Authority. PA has a hand of any waterfront industrial, ports, commerce, marina, etc. in major cities in US. Before anything, you will have to grease that hand,…Since you mentioned that money is a problem, you have an extremely high barrier entry here… To be honest, your chances are virtually null to get a marina going.

    I don’t know what your living arrangements are or what your financial situation is, but my advise to you would be to first try to “get a feel” of what’s going on around your local waterfront, how other people are making a living in that marine environment, etc. Maybe you can buy a small boat and start living aboard in a marina, that could be an ice breaker,…

    Little by little you can get some knowledge and start getting involved, do some “wheeling and dealing” around the waterfront, and eventually start something on your own or partner with other for a seasteading project.

    #23776
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    Whats a Gray Zone?

    #23768
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    Zutai

    Buying a real island would be much cheaper than building one.

    http://www.privateislandsonline.com/

    Spark

    The area from Midway Atoll all the way up to Kure Atoll is where the Pacific Gyre deposits most of its plastic debris on the beaches of several atolls in between those two. Once in a while the NOAA cleans those atolls beaches. You could have seen those pile ups,….

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1dblSip6RY

    36 TONS OF GARBAGE IN 19 DAYS!!! From only one small area…

    #23765
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    So, you are talking about a real island (from the seabed up), not a floating one?

    #23762
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    The general consensus is that seasteads should be built of concrete.

    #23760
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    Yeap

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