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This topic contains 35 replies, has 12 voices, and was last updated by Avatar of Serene Serene 1 year, 9 months ago.

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  • #20044
    Avatar of Elwar
    Elwar
    Participant

    “What about a communist seastead with fully-informed consent?”

    Full consent of all is ideal for any sort of government. I have tried to figure out a voting system where full consent would pass laws but I cannot get past the fact that infiltration by someone acting against the group can always be that single “no” vote just to harm the group.

    #20045
    Avatar of Ken Sims
    Ken Sims
    Keymaster

    I didn’t say “full consent”. I said “fully-informed consent”. I.e. for the communist seastead the participant understands and agrees to the fact that a central group will be making all decisions about the use of resources (which includes him/herself) and that s/he will have no vote on it.

    #20046
    Avatar of Elwar
    Elwar
    Participant

    Ahh. I am in complete support of people joining any group for which they know what they are getting into before they go into it.

    So they can say “you will be a slave if you come on our seastead”. If you get on the seastead you have made the choice to become a slave/live under communism.

    But you do not have “fully-informed consent” as in, you are not fully informed on what the central group will decide upon in the future. You may go on there expecting a communist utopia and then the central group decides that they want that crazy free market capitalism to take over. You go from sitting there asking for free handouts to being expected to put in some effort in exchange for stuff.

    #20079
    Avatar of Ken Sims
    Ken Sims
    Keymaster

    On that basis, it would be impossible to give fully-informed consent to being part of any seastead, or any organization of any kind.

    #20106
    Avatar of Elwar
    Elwar
    Participant

    “On that basis, it would be impossible to give fully-informed consent to being part of any seastead, or any organization of any kind.”

    True. The best route is to have full consent for every action. This would require a vote by all. If full consent is not realized, then force needs to be used against those who do not agree. Since you are doing something against someone’s will.

    #21104
    Avatar of Serene
    Serene
    Participant

    The project looks really nice.

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