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TSI is not conducive to seasteading?

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  • #23325
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    Why is it that the basics of small seasteading is an unknown on this forum?
     
    There’s no legal writeup on anchoring or drifting? There’s no engineering gurus on wave forces, material strengths, ocean climatology, or floating life support systems (drinking water, responcible sewage treatment, electricity, etc)? There’s not even a definition of “boat” vs “vessel” vs “barge” vs “houseboat” here. This is The Seasteading Institute, so what has been physically instituted, or put into useable databases by seasteaders? Why is it that everything i know about oceanology and boats has been learned somewhere that is not an institute formed allegedly to promote seasetading?
     
    And is TSI another case of “it’s useless and there’s nothing we can do about it”?

    #23326
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    Why are you bitching? You are the one saying that “I want to seastead alone”. Then go ahead, “seastead” alone. LOL,…you need help from TSI now?

    #23327
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    No, i can find the info somewhere else. But the $millions spent on Clubstead and everything else that won’t get built, and then asking for donations on kickstarter, when TSI doesn’t have a basic library containg the data i am finding and archiving for my own use, it ticks me off. And they have yearly get-togethers of the lawyers and other rich folks, and i watched a few videos, and there was nothing useful in them. The biggest lesson i am learning from this is to not share the research data i am collecting, and that bites too.

    #23328
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    OCEANOPOLIS
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    How TSI spends their money is their business and how ticked off you are about it is irrelevant. I think you are missing the point here.

    Nobody’s gonna build you a shiny seastead, Kat. Not TSI, not me,..nobody. “Seasteading alone” is not seasteading. It is called living aboard.

    There will be different “levels” of seasteading. TSI is at the higher end, meaning that they want to start relatively “big” with millions of dollars minimum investments and based on a floating real estate business model. Others, like me, are at the lower end, under $60K start up and based on a partnership of “lets experiment with cheap models first” participants.

    But the rule of thumb is that when in unknown waters (such as pioneering ventures like seasteadig) one should proceed with caution. Big swings might be spectacular but can run you aground fast

    #23329
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    Ocean, i do not understand why you are on my ass over suggesting TSI could be doing a better job at what they advertise they are. I do not understand why you think i am asking them (or anyone) to build me a “shiny seastead”. The reality is The Seasteading Institute has instituted nothing. People have been on the water for centuries, there should be nothing new to discover, and in fact there’s reams of info available, but none of it is at TSI.

    #23331
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    Kat, I am not affiliated with TSI, and I am not here to defend or criticize TSI. Also, I am not on your ass for suggesting that TSI could do a better job at whatever they are doing. I was just stating what for me seems to be the obvious truth…

    And I do agree with you on one point. What I have suggested during the years and I would have liked to see TSI do on a yearly basis, is to set aside a fund to be used as small grants by other small nonprofit organizations or qualified individuals who are involved and are actually doing seasteading research and experimentation.

    #23334
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    spark
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    The end of May 2014 I will take a trip to Florida for a week.
    I am planning to move there for a while, and this trip is just to see
    what I will need to do to make it happen.
    I am planning to be in Fort Lauderdale.

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