Seasteading Outpost Rincon del Mar Colombia Caribbean
November 10, 2011 at 1:42 pm #1701
This thread is based on the idea that Rincon has what is the ideal dose of remoteness, business chances, material availability and interference freedom.
Let’s asume we have a budget – how do we tackle the matter ? – here we go…November 10, 2011 at 2:43 pm #16306
Come on guys, the ideas of this thread are badly flawed. Bad input->bad output. Seasteading should be built on realistic assumptions.
Interference of freedome=high.
rincon is to close to the border of panama.
submarine guys in the swamps are not popular in colombia.
Business chances=no economy in rincon
Remoteness=none wants go to rincon
real cartagenaNovember 10, 2011 at 6:16 pm #16312
yo…. this is the nonsense level where i am out – and take the discussion to a space where people who comment that way can be blocked and blended out…
Colombia is a wonderful country for decent people acting decently… who wants a decent discussion with decent people about the thread theme have it here – it is a active board forum where i have admin function…forum rules – suckers get blocked – smart and decent comments welcome…
WilNovember 10, 2011 at 8:58 pm #16314
I don’t agree with your generalization about Columbia, man. While I haven’t been there, I don’t think that all columbians are thives, or drug dealers or con artists. And while Rincon might not be a good spot for you, me or others, some will always thing differently. I am sure that there are some nice, safe locations in Columbia for seasteading. As for the picture above,…all countries have ghettos man.
C’mon,…we have to be civil and fair here.November 10, 2011 at 9:38 pm #16317
This is where the people who wanted the Wild, Wild West in the forums should be taking this user in hand, pointing out such things as:
1. He/she has already made the point several times, there’s no need to keep repeating it.
2. These threads are for this specific project. If he/she is not participating in the project, his/her opinion is irrelevant here.
If the regulars want to point out these facts, and if Smit457 continues these posts, then I would entertain a request to block Smit457.
And based on what I’ve seen so far, I would grant that request, a temporary block at first, and a permanent block if needed.
Volunteer admin and primary spamfighterNovember 11, 2011 at 6:53 am #16327
I’ve found Smit’s posts hilarious as an obvious disinformation campaign. I’ve been analyzing them as they show up to see who he works for and what their motivations are for discouraging development around Rincon.
The grammer is correct and content is more sophisticated than your typical troll. For instance, spelling out Wil’s complate name along with his sub project is supposed to create the parallel assumption that he is a suspicious character with a shady past. Smit also repeatedly uses words and phrases to which the masses have been conditioned to emotionally react. This must be a minor project, one of many for him, since a quick review of this forum would show him that the users here are typically of above average intelligence and could care less about the failed drug prohibition policy from Washington, D.C., other than the fact that it has resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent people in Central and South America.
I’d be happy to discuss with Smit here why development of the Rincon area is not a good idea in an honest, forthright, logical manner based on fact, if he will tell us who he works for and why they do not want development around Rincon.
The letters are a good recruitment filter, though, since anyone who would be disuaded by them is most likely lacking in the pioneering spirit required to be seasteading material.
More Wikileaks please, I want to see waht they have on Colombia…November 11, 2011 at 7:03 am #16332
Oceanopolis: Who needs electricity? Just make your own!
Seriously I built a boat using 0 electricity, it turned out great.
Though if you get there by sailboat, likely your boat shall already be equiped.
In terms of “budget” I’d really like to say Bud-Get Get a buddy in Rincoin! Woohoo! lol
have you visited them at their council meeting or to interview some of the locals about floating real-estate?
You’re a good guy, they’ll probably like you, once you’ve got some buddy’s things pan out nice.
We’re here for you to of course, though ya, Rincoin is like the Occupy of Columbia/Seasteading (from my perspective).
Like Occupy they are in some legal grey area, forming communities, policies etcetera.
As a fellow Toronto Occupier said todaytoronto wrote:
“I think the public outrage has been magnificently exaggerated. Teachers are bringing schoolchildren here all day to come and talk with us and learn why we’re here,” said Peter, a 23-year-old illustrator in charge of communications for the day. “We are here protesting the various economic and social injustices in the world and we are fully within our rights to be here.”
I think that can be directly applied to this situation with Rincoin.
If there are children living there, it’s pretty safe.
and while they may be breaking some laws,
they do have the international right/ability
to make use of their natural resources and have a home.
We with You are a Network, our goal to become technologically-enabled reproducible family communities. http://weyounet.infoNovember 11, 2011 at 8:03 am #16335
I thought it would be cool to introduce a community currency in Rincon, looks like elspru has come up with a name for it, Rincoin.November 11, 2011 at 6:32 pm #16338
Somehow, a picture of Elspru wearing his stylish pirate hat and a “neo Che Guevarish attitude” while spreading the leftist “OCUPAR RINCON” gospel in that village might make a trip down there worth every pennyNovember 16, 2011 at 11:51 pm #16501
At a basic level, what valuation shall we place on the platforms deliverable to the buyers. If we use $166/ton of discplacement as the building cost, what will be the final sale price to the buyer, and how long should we allow for the sale to complete? Also, is that a metric ton or imperial ton, 1000 kg or 2000 pounds. Also, what is the density of the concrete, interior and exterior wall thicknesses, floor thickness, deck thickness, and span between interior wall or bulkheads.November 17, 2011 at 4:18 am #16509
At a basic level, what valuation shall we place on the platforms deliverable to the buyers. If we use $166/ton of discplacement as the building cost,
er, would that be plastic bottles or styrofoam?
cause concrete is around $500 per ton.
what will be the final sale price to the buyer,
woah buddy… that’s the Cost of the materials
prices are usually 5 times more than cost, though I’d prefer 4 as it’s a more harmonic number.
Remember that after doing the cost of materials, there is construction 1/4, outfitting 1/4, sales 1/8, research 1/8.
and how long should we allow for the sale to complete?
Also, is that a metric ton or imperial ton, 1000 kg or 2000 pounds.
metric always metric… using imperial system crashed a mars probe during landing.
Metric is the closest to being harmonic with hydrogen diameter, it’s 2cm less than hydrogen diamter times 16^8.
Also metric is an international standard, and this is an international forum.
Also, what is the density of the concrete, interior and exterior wall thicknesses, floor thickness, deck thickness, and span between interior wall or bulkheads.
The exterior is the thickest, with large aggregate on the exterior.
interior walls/floors are relatively thin, using only sand/cement mix, enough to cover mesh and rebar.
We with You are a Network, our goal to become technologically-enabled reproducible family communities. http://weyounet.infoNovember 17, 2011 at 1:13 pm #16514
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