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  • #1570
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    Ken Sims
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    Patri and others of the TSI Staff are going to be splitting off to work on some actual seasteading commercial ventures.

    You read about it in TSI July newsletter here:
    http://seasteading.org/blogs/main/2011/07/31/the-seasteading-institute-july-2011-newsletter

    And also in this letter from Patri here:
    http://seasteading.org/transition2011

    #14485
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    shredder7753
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    i applaud Max and Dario but my question would be; will the workers on said vessel be able to leave and enter US territory each day without any trouble from the U.S. Customs?

    (P.M. me if that should stay on the hush – but im thinking they must have found an answer to that question by now)

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    #14487
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    Ken Sims
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    shredder7753 wrote:

    i applaud Max and Dario but my question would be; will the workers on said vessel be able to leave and enter US territory each day without any trouble from the U.S. Customs?

    (P.M. me if that should stay on the hush – but im thinking they must have found an answer to that question by now)

    If you’re asking that of me specifically, I don’t know. The information that I received a couple weeks ago was no more detailed in those kinds of things than the information in the newsletter and transition letter.

    I’m sure they are considering all of those issues. I haven’t downloaded and read the legal strategy (part 1) PDF so I don’t know if it’s covered there. If not, it might be in part 2 that is supposed to be coming out in a few weeks (per the newsletter).

    #14783
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    Winkerson
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    I don’t think they would, in the case of people who can’t get us visas anyway. I think their idea here is just that they’d be close to silicon valley, more that their labs and their projects would be available to them than the other way around. Such a setup might attract a lot of teams from the valley too working on stuff that’s not exactly kosher in the us.

    I’m curious though, I thought a country’s laws carried over into their EEZ? It sucks that they’ve eaten up most of the good places (any vision i conjure up of seasteading always involves shallows just because… hell, it seems so optimal. Even if you can take a beating, it seems like growing coral beds on the bottom would be a fantastic way to improve the survivability of your environment for one, using spare electricity to do biorock/accretion coral structures. Even if that tech’s not good enough for building actual structures, I haven’t seen anyone saying it isn’t freakin’ awesome for quick corral growth, and then in any hard economic times if worse comes to worse your population can still survive going into the coral and kelp fields with hand spears after sheepshead and spadefish and flounder and molluscs. Not to mention growing some really fantastic coral structure would just explode your tourism industry, and perhaps you could build a few scraps of beach on coral/rebar structures built up real high, with some throwaway cabins for the tourists.

    But all the great places for stuff like that are inside someone’s eez it seems, even tons of islands that noone is even beginning to use that have great bays that would just be fantastic harbors for even the msot basic sorts of seasteads (pontoons with houses on top of them), but even though they’re unused and will never be useful for major nations, the US and others just sit on them. And after they rub your nose in that, they sit on all the shallows too where you could make great homes with sturdy seasteads (ellmer’s awesome submersibles) and grow coral breakwaters at the cost of electric so that you could later harbor less sturdy structures in great numbers, expanding your population demographics.

    Good to see these guys are working on something solid though, everything else I’ve read on the forums says they’re just talking about it. Even if they only go for some really high cost option, you’ve gotta think; their structure’s going to be a magnet. If they’er smart they’ll build extra power production into theirs, and once that major hurdle’s out of the way I bet there will be a lot of people willing to get out there (knowing they have secure power and data through the oil rig or whatever the SSI puts up).

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