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    I think; roros are not that safe.
    This can be seen and researched. If the Seasteading Institute wants my
    dollar donation, than purchases need to be handled better.
    Though, they might have made money on the deal, and that might benefit the
    average seasteader.
    Business mistakes are not uncommon and are recoverable.

    I still do not want to seastead on a roro. The Baltic Ace, roro, sank in
    Dec. 06. 2012 after collision within 15 minutes. Large number of people
    on a boat like that in panic can be a tragedy.

    The first vessel of the Seasteading Institue is a roro.


    “The Seasteading Institute has put our ship up for sale. Please share with anyone who might be interested in her.”

    Ship / Boat / Former Gambling Casino / RoRo Passenger Vessel

    DISCLAIMER: I do not know the conditiion of this ship.


    Equipped with built-in ramps and long tiers of decks, Roll On Roll Off (RoRo) ships are essentially floating parking garages that allow vehicles to be driven aboard the ship at the loading port and driven off at another. The use of the vehicles’ own wheels makes loading RoRos much faster and more effective than traditional ships which require massive cranes to unload.


    But why are they so dangerous?
    On conventional ships, the hull is divided into a number of separate holds by means of transverse bulkheads, many of which may be watertight. In the event of the hull being holed, the bulkheads will limit or delay the inrush of water, resulting in the ship sinking slowly enough for the evacuation of those on board or even preventing the ship from sinking at all.


    Baltic Ace Sinks: Five Dead, Six Still Missing in North Sea
    The Dutch Defence Ministry said conditions were treacherous when the Corvus J container ship and the Baltic Ace collided, sending 1,400 new cars, mostly Mitsubishis from Japan and Thailand, to the seabed on Wednesday evening.

    The car carrier sank in 15 minutes and the wreck is now completely submerged.


    MV Baltic Ace was a Bahamian-flagged car carrier that sank in the North Sea on 5 December 2012 after a collision with the Cyprus-registered container ship Corvus J.
    Baltic Ace was a car carrier, a roll-on/roll-off ship designed to transport vehicles in a large, fully enclosed garage-like superstructure running the entire length and width of the vessel.

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    Ken Sims

    A few things to bear in mind …


    1. The Seasteading Institute did not buy the ship. It was given to TSI.


    2. The Seasteading Institute is a non-profit organization and therefore cannot run a for-profit seastead. That’s why Blueseed is a completely separate entity.


    3. It’s not the mission of The Seasteading Institute to do seasteading, but rather to be a facilitator.


    From the Vision/Strategy page:

    As a non-profit organization, our role is not to build seasteads ourselves, but to set the stage in order to empower others to do so. Our program therefore focuses on business development, engineering and legal research, political and industry diplomacy and building a community of aspiring seasteaders.



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