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  • #1232
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    zeyang
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    hi,

    Interested in sailing on high seas, living in a sailing coop like a seafaring gypsy?We are building a sailboat as a pilot project, which will hopefully be the first of a bigger seafaring community.

    http://www.couchsurfing.org/people/sailing-the-farm

    http://blog.sina.com.cn/zeyang2009

    we need more volunteers both for building stage but also sailing.

    zeyang

    #9947
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    xns
    Participant

    I’ve got 13 years of sailing experience, not sure if we’re even in the same continent though :p But if you need any help in the way of fish farming or berthing while in Singapore, we at Hadean would be very happy to lend assistance =)

    King Shannon of the Constitutional Monarchy of Logos.

    #10001
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    safira
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    hey folks …

    just to let you know that living on the water can be easy or hard …n I have been on the water 10 yrs+ now …. I get very little from land … make my own water … and have a good time cruiseing around … getting ready for a 2nd circumnavigation later this year.

    cheers

    #10004
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    Jeff-Chan
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    It’s always exciting to see new construction and to hear about new efforts t get on the water, so I congratulate your efforts. It’s hard to tell from a single picture, but zeyang’s ship looks a bit beamy. The structural keel looks like it would give good stability when in motion, but how will it handle when not under way?

    Remember that under some operating models a seastead might be mostly stationary, so the design requirements can be a bit different from a ship built for transit. For example decoupling from waves when not moving would be an advantage, and a deep keel tends to work against that at least for waves whose primary direction is from the side.

    Maybe we should ask: what is the purpose of the ship, where will she sail, etc.?

    Is the material all Aluminum plate? What alloy and thicknesses?

    #10006
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    xns
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    Excellent questions Jeff, I’m actually thinking of commissioning a 60ft aluminium trimaran for myself, it’d be nice to get advice from other sailors out there. Thus far I’ve only sailed GRP monohulls and beach cats.

    King Shannon of the Constitutional Monarchy of Logos.

    #10007
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    Jeff-Chan
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    A big part of it is suitability to purpose, so it depends somewhat where you expect to operate. A river barge or lake houseboat would not be suitable for the open ocean, for example. People certainly have successfully crossed all major oceans in fairly small sailboats, but they may not always have been as comfortable or safe as might be hoped for. Bear in mind that lots of people have died at sea too.

    Also keep in mind that most ships are designed to be stable while in motion. They may be uncomfortable in moderate waves without forward motion. This puts a major contraint on the design of something that’s intended to not be in motion most of the time, if that’s the mode of operation for seasteading. On the other hand a Residensea model of a cruise ship travelling from port to port could also be a form of seasteading.

    #10008
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    zeyang
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    Jeff wrote:

    It’s always exciting to see new construction and to hear about new efforts t get on the water, so I congratulate your efforts. It’s hard to tell from a single picture, but zeyang’s ship looks a bit beamy. The structural keel looks like it would give good stability when in motion, but how will it handle when not under way?

    Remember that under some operating models a seastead might be mostly stationary, so the design requirements can be a bit different from a ship built for transit. For example decoupling from waves when not moving would be an advantage, and a deep keel tends to work against that at least for waves whose primary direction is from the side.

    Maybe we should ask: what is the purpose of the ship, where will she sail, etc.?

    Is the material all Aluminum plate? What alloy and thicknesses?

    Yes. its 5083 alloy. thickness is 8 mm.

    the construction is from a famous designer (colin archer) and this construction has logged years and years of service in the rescue service and saved life in many hundred fishermen along the coast of norway. There should be no doubt about the seaworthiness of this design.

    The plan is: first build one to see if this sailing/seafaring collective is popular. if it is, hopefully more boats of similar construction will be built. Sofar maybe 20-30 people have been involved during building for shorter or longer time. and many more seems very intersted in coming and help run this project this forward. Project is lowcost, fairly simple and seems to attract both male and females. (sofar almost 50/50) boat or boats will then roam the 7 seas forever.

    if you want to see more technical stuff

    http://weldingweb.com/forumdisplay.php?f=10

    zeyang

    #10010
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    Altaica
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    zeyang wrote:

    Interested in sailing on high seas, living in a sailing coop like a seafaring gypsy?

    Yes!

    Were do I sign up?

    Norway? oh :D

    ouk emou alla tou logou akousantas homologein sophon estin hen

    #10012
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    zeyang
    Participant

    Altaica wrote:
    zeyang wrote:

    Interested in sailing on high seas, living in a sailing coop like a seafaring gypsy? Yes!

    Were do I sign up?

    Norway? oh :D

    [/quote]

    Yes!

    Basically, sailing the farm collective can give your seasteading projected some help in future.

    People who fall in love with the sailing the farm collective will probably also have an interest in seasteading. After some months or years of sailing they are also more skilled and used to live on the sea, and besides. we manage easily to find enough females to fill our goal of 50/50 genderbalance.

    It seems seasteading project need more females involved.

    zeyang

    #10015
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    SailorTrash
    Participant

    I’m interested in hearing more.

    S/V Sovereign: http://seagypsies-mikeandkatie.blogspot.com/

    Taking our cue from the Eskimos, we boat people have over 30 words for “le

    #10560
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    zeyang
    Participant

    hi friends
    here is a short update from sailing the farm collective in middle of june.

    The summer is here now at last and bees are busy collecting delicious honey.
    Plan with bees is to expand hives so we are spending some time doing queen
    breeding. its a little more tricky than it seems at first glance, but cool to
    do.

    Then we have planted herbs in the garden and hopefully we will get a lot of
    healthy vegetables by end of summer.

    And then the most important news!! Boatbuilding goes happily forward. We are
    working hard welding in frames into the hull. and after a lot of fiddeling we
    are now down to bending one frame in 3 hours!! thats pretty fast when we spend
    more than a day with the first one. Next step is deck and then interior and
    sail-sewing. (mostly whole august on this step)

    Then, we wish you all a happy summer. If you are interested in joining we have
    space for august and onwards,

    fair winds and happy summer.

    regards
    sailing-the-farm collective!

    #11219
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    zeyang
    Participant

    Sailing the farm tribe – Week 34 2010.

    Dear Friends.

    Late august 2010. 6-7 people from europe and south america has been
    here last weeks and we suddenly start to feel that summer is soon
    over. It has been raining almost every day last week but thankfully
    the boatbuilding shed is waterproof.

    We are now working on painting the barn and fixing the roof. Not easy
    when its 15 meter to the top, but with an expert english scaffold girl
    this part goes forward fast. Our small garden is soon ready for
    harvest and we have some blue and rasperry raids into the forest so we
    will hopefully not run out of jam for the next month or so.

    Last week the girls found out that a real boat should have a real
    galleon figure and since one of them are an metal artist she think it
    would be nice to cast it in aluminium. One of the other girls act as a
    model. Sofar it looks nice in plaster, and we look forward to see how
    real it will be in aluminium. That blue plaster stuff is amazing.

    Thanks to everyone who sent us tips for eco villages. Hopefully some
    will be interested in our journey and maybe even want to participate
    in our sea gypsy project.

    We have some space for late september and onwards if you are
    interested in joining this cool sea-gypsy project. Just drop us a line.

    Peace and love from
    Sailing-the-farm

    Pictures from last week: James and Jane Bond with license to screw,
    Miss plasterface (Our female galleon model) and our metal artist
    posing outside the boat.


    Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse
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    #11254
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    SailorTrash
    Participant

    Still following the progress!

    http://seagypsies-mikeandkatie.blogspot.com/

    Much like Eskimos and snow, boat people have over 30 words for “leak.”

    #11262
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    wohl1917
    Participant

    Great pics stories on your blog! One small correction though: the aircraft pictured is an F-22 not an F18. Watch out for those freighters.

    < http://ocr.wikia.com/wiki/Oceanic_Citizens_Republic_Wiki>

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    zeyang
    Participant

    Sailing the farm tribe – October 2010.

    Dear wannabe sea-gypsies.

    Late october 2010. Still no snow, which is kind of strange, but we are
    happy. It has been a quite a busy october with more than 10 people
    here almost all the time so it is a little crowded during dinner-time.
    But ofcourse very nice. We have spent most of the time painting up
    the barn and fixing the roof and we are now very close to finish up
    this step.

    But we are not always working, during weekend it has been apple
    picking so the cellar is stuffed with yummy apple/cinnamon jam.

    We will be back to serious boatbuilding when last part of the barn
    roof is fixed so stay tuned.

    If you want to join our cool sea gypsy tribe, please contact us.

    Pictures from last weeks: Pretty crowded around breakfast table,indoor
    fishing, the cat found a soft couch, happy workers on the roof.

    Peace and love from
    Sailing-the-farm tribe.


    Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse
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