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  • #9975
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    Koilon
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    I read an article one time about using a solar oven to dehydrate poop so you could burn it. Since I heat with wood (which I cut on my own land), anyway, I wondered, “Why not just throw it in the fire?” I tried it and it burned up with no problem at all. All the ashes from my stove get spead in my garden, anyway, so I’ve lived on my landstead for 19 years without needing and outhouse. When I need to piss, I do that in the garden, too, and I’ve never had problem with flies or odor. On a seastead, I’d just do what the article said and build myself a solar oven and use the dehydrated poop like the pioneers used buffalo chips to cook over for lack of wood on the prairie. A solar oven, by the way, is nothing but an insulated box with a glass window facing the sun, perhaps with extra reflectors to force more light and heat into the box. You can bake bread in these things!

    #10119
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    This thread asks the question: if we were suspended over the ocean what would we do with our poop?

    Here is the only possible problem with the obvious answer: Fish & stuff will start hanging out under the platform waiting for the free meal. If we fished off the platform and established a two species loop then some pathogen or parasite could learn to take advantage of that making us and our poop eating little friend sick.

    That problem is only likely with large populations over many years but it has happened before. the solution is a simple floating net tank to separate our volunteer clean up crew from our food fish.

    #10123
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    Dude,

    Anaerobics, followed by Aerobics treats 99.999% of the problem. Follow it with a simple Chorinator, using alternating current and saline solution and problem solved…

    Farmer wrote:

    This thread asks the question: if we were suspended over the ocean what would we do with our poop?

    Here is the only possible problem with the obvious answer: Fish & stuff will start hanging out under the platform waiting for the free meal. If we fished off the platform and established a two species loop then some pathogen or parasite could learn to take advantage of that making us and our poop eating little friend sick.

    That problem is only likely with large populations over many years but it has happened before. the solution is a simple floating net tank to separate our volunteer clean up crew from our food fish.

    Later,

    J.L.F.

    If you can’t swim with the big fish, stick to the reef

    #10128
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    Farmer
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    Meh, wanna avoid the chlorine if possible. The hyperoxignated / anoxic treatment would be cheap, easy and green but I think we can avoid paying for any treatment at all.

    #11485
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    Given that we’ve all agreed that space aboard a seastead is likely to be at a premium, why would you compost-worm-farm your waste on board? Wouldn’t it make more sense to pump it all into a large plastic sack tethered overboard? Or maybe a series of such sacks? Worms don’t get seasick, do they? likewise whatever rodents you decide to use as protein source. Save the quality living space for people and machines that need it.

    #11504
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    I was just thinking about this problem.

    The whole point behind a composting toilet is just a controled space to let nature take it course. Consider a large pipe sticking out the bottom of the seastead. waste mixed with seawater is added to the top of the pipe and pushes the contents of the pipe down a little bit toward the open bottom. If your pipe is large enough then sewage that leaves the bottom of the pipe has been inside it long enough so that it does not contain any harmful bacteria or othyer pathogens. In fact it will simply be seawater thick with microbal sea life. “Seeding” the inside of the pipe with the right critters could cut down the time needed before the black water is safe therefore the legnth of pipe needed.

    #11506
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    Using composting toilets lets you recycle the nutrients faster and doesn’t pollute the local waters… Personally, I would think anaerobic (methane) digester, followed by aerobic, is better. Collect and use the Methane for heat energy for something… Liquid fertilizer from the aerobic treatment is fine, as is properly composted waste… Pick a clean system, over dumping it into the oceans, like the toxicity we have built into the soil…

    Later,

    J.L.F.

    Never be afraid to try something new…

    Remember, amateurs built the ark, professionals built the Titanic.

    #12348
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    I want a simple system as I can, more simple it is, the less things will break and need to be maintained, and if there is not a valve to the sea, that is one less thing to flood the stead. (Actually, toilet valve failure is a common way for boats to sink.)

    I am going to be “evil” and say Greywater – overboard, and burn the blackwater.

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