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  • #10342
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    Make oil from this well exempt from taxes and regulation. Let anyone sell it for profit and pocket all the money with no interference from government.

    #10343
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    OCEANOPOLIS
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    Money and seawater dont mix too good. Its the same w/oil.

    Carl @ Altaica, plsssssssssssssssss guys,..”market-based oil spill mitigation “?? “Make oil from this well exempt from taxes and regulation. Let anyone sell it for profit and pocket all the money with no interference from government.”???, “What’s the going market price for Sludge?” ????

    STOP posting aberration dudes,…WE HAVE A REAL PROBLEM down here!!!!!

    Thorizan. “Where do we go from here?”,……..The only rational action should be “containment”. It should have been priority “numero uno” since DAY 1. But we are not dealing here with rational minds. No Sir. We are dealing w /BP @ the US Gov..” Bad” doesnt even aplly here…the adjective to this situation is still to be invented.

    The fact of the matter is that its unstoppable, for now. Sooner or later, then, some of that oil WILL get in the Loop and the the Gulf Stream. You said it, ” If you think what’s already happened is bad… just wait.”

    And this is the worst thing that “we” can do. Wait. For what? BP failed. The Gov. is doing SHIT. (Sorry,… they are opening a criminal investigation). Unbeliveble man!! Unreal!! Oil is gushing out @ 20-30k barrels/day, and Uncle Sam is “investigating” (way to go elected officials).

    I did say unstoppable but not uncontainable. A big effort is mounting down in the Keys, private boat owners voluteering their vessels, time and money to get ready to fight this black tide. Unlike the rest of this nation, We, down here, dont have the time, nor the luxury, nor the patience, nor the trust, to wait for no fucking government or corporation to protect our livelihood here which is symbiotically related to the ocean.

    #10345
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    Melllvar
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    http://www.xkcd.com/748/

    In other news, I’ve decided to cut back on seafood.

    #10348
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    Oil companies are making money today extracting oil from tar sands. Separating it from sea water should be a breeze.

    Removing the taxes and regulation will make sure the incentive to collect and sell this stuff is as great as it can be.

    I admit I cannot be certain that it will be profitable, but it is worth a try.

    If you were an oil company (other than BP obviously), would the chance of selling all the oil from this well without paying taxes on it seem attractive?

    Would you be very creative in coming up with ways to stop the leak if that was your reward for doing so?

    #10359
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    Altaica
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    OCEANOPOLIS wrote:
    STOP posting aberration dudes,…WE HAVE A REAL PROBLEM down here!!!!!

    The subject of this topic is “Oil spills & seasteading.” NOT “The Deepwater Horizon oil spill & Florida

    Are you really proposing that if my seastead is facing an oil spill all I need to do it tank up the oily sludge and ship it to Florida where they have a free sludge containment facility?

    That seems like a more rational solution to then you filter the crud oil out of the spill put the clean water back into the ocien and give the oil to the petrochemical industries?

    OCEANOPOLIS wrote:
    Unlike the rest of this nation, We, down here, dont have the time, nor the luxury, nor the patience, nor the trust, to wait for no fucking government or corporation to protect our livelihood here which is symbiotically related to the ocean.

    That’s the problem. Your only thinking about your own livelihood. You are being a parasite not a symbiont.

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    #10366
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    OCEANOPOLIS
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    Now thats another aberration.

    #10533
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    I have a plan to fix the Gulf oil spill/ leak however there appears to be multiple leaks. This is a down the hole leak. It can’t be plugged. The oil is leaking out of the drill shaft and into the porous sea bed. Its coming up in several places. The only solution is to put tent makers and sail makers and net makers together to create a set of large tent like canopies to anchor above the leaks. The oil rises into these conical tents. At the apex of these ‘tents’ we add 10ft diameter plastic/canvas pipes made of the same material as the tent. These pipes get the oil up to a hight that methane hydrates can’t form. We need robots in those big pipes to control clogging. At that point you can pump the oil out into tankers.

    A project could be put together buy volunteers to get the ball rolling on this containment option but I’m in Australia and don’t have the right contacts. I do have a good grasp of the plastics involved and the oceanology. I don’t think BP or Obama can solve this one they don’t think out side the box.

    The following posts on my blog will explain further: http://appliedimpossibilies.blogspot.com/2010/05/gulf-oil-leak.html

    and http://appliedimpossibilies.blogspot.com/2010/06/oil-leak-potential-catastrophe-and.html

    I need any contacts you can think of. wesleybruce@iinet.net.au

    For everyone’s information I was involved with the original Oceania Project in a small way. I’m also in several space organisations. And I have a Degree in sustainable Development, sustainable agriculture and renewable energy,water and sewerage.

    #10569
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    As many here are aware I’m into plastic (but not ‘plastic magnets‘ nice one Patri). I’ve come up with a plan to cap the sea bed leaks. Not all the leaks at the BOP now.

    http://appliedimpossibilies.blogspot.com/2010/06/capping-gulf-oil-leak-with-plastic.html

    I need people to publicize this solution and get me the right contacts to get things rolling. I’m in Australia which further complicates things. If they can’t plug it and wont nuke it this is the third option. We also get to clean up and sell the oil.

    BP and Obama are clueless. If the tea party and the libertarians solve this crisis with out governmernt money or help it will change the political game forever. Are we up to the task?

    For everyone’s information I was involved with the original Oceania Project in a small way. I’m also in several space organisations. And I have a Degree in sustainable Development, sustainable agriculture and renewable energy, water and sewerage.

    #10576
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    With a design of this size, Ferrocement would be quicker and cheaper to realize. Problem with the whole ‘lock’ idea… ROV’s are hooked-up by cables to control them. In addition, they can’t operate directly in the flow from the well, so no need to put them into the thing, anyway. However, nice idea. Slim it down to 100 ft. diameter. put a flex coupling on it and line it with steel, so the force of the oil can’t just erode through the outer casing… Understand, the force of the oil is doing damage to the interior of the stuff, right now. I’ve been following closely, on “Life after the Oil Collapse” forums… Plus the “Monkey Fister” blog and other places.

    Later,

    J.L.F.

    Never be afraid to try something new…

    Remember, amateurs built the ark, professionals built the Titanic.

    #10586
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    The damage is done, actually is ongoing. There are still thousnds of barrels pouring in the Gulf as we speak. Also what we are wittnessing here its a twisted mentality: they are trying to protect the land (beaches and marshes), but nothing is been done about the waters. In fact the efforts to protect the land are doing more damage to the marine environment than helping, by using dispersants and burning the oil on the sea surface. Soon we will see the magnitude of this disaster. The whole Gulf will become a toxic soup with spillovers in the Caribean and the Atlantic. While the Tropical depression Alex might not hit the Gulf directly, it will still bring a big swell into the Gulf. This will stirr up the whole mess on the vertical scale(@ lower depth) because of the storm surge. It is very probable than, that those huge “oil plums” in suspension now @ certain depth, to break and mix w/seawater and spread all over.

    And nowbody can clean this mess.

    #10589
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    Oceanopolis, you might want to read through this. There’s a trhead on the live spill cams/operations… Numerous others of interest. We try to put our best educated guess into explaining what we are seeing, on the live cam thread…

    http://www.doomers.us/forum2/index.php/board,38.0.html

    Later,

    J.L.F.

    Never be afraid to try something new…

    Remember, amateurs built the ark, professionals built the Titanic.

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