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    thebastidge
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    This weekend while doing some looking into a job opportunity presented to me, I found that there is an incredibly long waiting list to get long term docking at marinas in Hawaii, due to the limited number of State or Privately owned marinas being limited by law. No new development in years, as I understand.

    I was looking into this job as an opportunity to get a liveaboard boat, perhaps even fix one up for myself, but this lack of slips is a real problem for that plan.

    However, obstacles present opportunities to overcome. Here’s a business model for you all to ponder:

    Offshore floating marina to avoid the restrictions the State imposes on oceanfront property. Keep it close enough in to provide infrastructure services such as grid electricity (possibly, or maybe simply a larger central generator facility), telecommuncations services, regular transport to the nearest land, etc.

    #9045
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    I’m envisioning some seasteads being exactly that. We’re full-time cruisers and liveaboards, and we’re hoping to be part of the “pony express” that networks seasteads off-grid.

    http://seagypsies-mikeandkatie.blogspot.com/

    Taking our cue from the Eskimos, we boat people have over 30 words for “leak.”

    #9046
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    SailorTrash
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    Things cruisers will definitely want:

    Shore power in 110VAC and 220VAC, 30A and 50A.

    Fresh water. Hot showers or even a bath!

    Wireless or cable internet.

    Waste disposal (trashbags and pump-outs).

    Tiki bar with cold beer and boat drinks.

    Repair services and parts.

    http://seagypsies-mikeandkatie.blogspot.com/

    Taking our cue from the Eskimos, we boat people have over 30 words for “leak.”

    #9047

    bast, michael, – i would consider long waiting lists and high prices for docking a general problem. I am here in the caribbean and it is exactly the same. Shipyards need to be on deepwater channels, in the beach zone, near population centers, – so this is the most cramped development space. I doubt that “land based” is a cost and administrative advantage in this segment. Floating is cheaper, more efficient.

    From what michael said here and on the OSDI thread i would like to explore the pony express idea on the “seastead as oasis for yachting nomads” thread. What concerns big ship repair i see opporunities althogh the cost of floating drydocks is huge and it is a extreme time shedule driven business. Minor afloat repair could work for seasteads ouside hurricane zone.

    Wil

    #9048
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    wohl1917
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    what you’ve proposed there is the kind of thing I’ve thought a seastead should be all along: a town or economic center on the ocean prairie! Unfortunately, you’d have to build it beyond the territorial waters of [enter name of nation/state here] otherwise they surely would regulate you. Now, if you built it closer and made enough money fast enough, you could hire vultures…er…lawyers to fight of regulation getting injunctions etc., it could work!

    < http://ocr.wikia.com/wiki/Oceanic_Citizens_Republic_Wiki>

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    libertariandoc
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    And all things that benefit from economies of scale, so a central source of these items would be cheaper. Maintaining location off of the Hawaiian (or some Caribbean) islands would be a challenge, but could be done.

    Michael wrote:

    Things cruisers will definitely want:

    Shore power in 110VAC and 220VAC, 30A and 50A.

    Fresh water. Hot showers or even a bath!

    Wireless or cable internet.

    Waste disposal (trashbags and pump-outs).

    Tiki bar with cold beer and boat drinks.

    Repair services and parts.

    http://seagypsies-mikeandkatie.blogspot.com/

    Taking our cue from the Eskimos, we boat people have over 30 words for “leak.”

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    I won’t be wronged. I won’t be insulted. I won’t be laid a-hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.

    #9054
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    SailorTrash
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    A parts dealer would probably be a welcome sight, especially used parts and a dealer willing to bargain. I like to haggle, and I do enjoy the barter system. It’s been good to us.

    http://seagypsies-mikeandkatie.blogspot.com/

    Taking our cue from the Eskimos, we boat people have over 30 words for “leak.”

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