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New Batch of Lighthouses Available – 2014

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  • #23529
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    Aeolius
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    https://resourcecenter.secure.force.com/pbs/LighthouseNotices

    They will be made available to qualified organizations, first. The leftovers will be placed up for auction.

    #23530
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    Can someone please save Diamond Shoals platform before it rusts right off it’s legs?

    #23531
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    Aeolius
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    Zapp Water dude’s last FB update was in January: “Sorry…been busy for a while…new job….etc. The next trip out to DSLS is planned for May. Looks like it will be a helicopter/boat trip. I have 2 sets of ladders I will bring out and put into place. That should eliminate the “sight seeing” boats rides…..if any of you know of any welders (not afraid of heights), that want to hang in the ocean for a long weekend…send them my way!”

    #23532
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    Zapman has had the tower for years now, and done nothing useful to it. In fact, parts have fallen off it. He’s been on it less than one day per year, far as i can tell. He is in way over his head.
     
    Shame he cannot be contacted, and won’t pay to get anyone there, or their cost to be there. I could show up with 100’s feet of ladder, arc welder, generators and power winches, tons of steel, years of experience, and etcetera. But if i put my meager resources towards his place, then i have none to put towards me being on the water. The way he has acted, and my experience with other humans, shows me i cannot count on a place to live there even if i rebuild the whole place for him with my own free labor. Since he is not responding to anyone via email, and not doing anything to the tower, i cannot help but think this is a scam of some sort.
     
    And he paid only $10k(?) for such a wonderful jumping off point for seasteaders, and he is letting it deteriorate. Someone with money should offer him money, and a free visiting time, to zapman in exchange for the title, and put the tower to use. Just off the top of my head: seastead technology (boat, power, food) testing, stationary 40ft deep water rafting, fixed place offshore grocery (utilities, repairs, food) store, etc.. It’s a wonderful place to transship from the shore to oceanic seasteads. Your mileage may vary.
     
    I am only slightly joking about pirating the place, he’d never know, because he simply isn’t ever there.

    #23533
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    Re Diamond Shoals Tower: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_Shoal_Light . Zapman also has a Facebook and personal page about the tower, but i don’t have the urls, and figure they aren’t worth looking for. Aeolius has them, i think.
     
    Comparing/using the stats from one of the remaining sister towers, it’s 70x70ft (or 5000 sq ft) of enclosed floor space, and 80ft above mean water level. The machinery deck below the enclosed living space is also 5000 sq ft..
     
    The third remaining 4-legged “Texas Tower” is the one at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesapeake_Light , was refurbished and is in active use. There were some 3-legged towers which didn’t fare well (altho one was twice hit by ships, which wasn’t it’s fault).

    #23534
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    Aeolius
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    One wonders if his “new job” means he is no longer self-employed? His website, http://zapwatertechnology.com , has apparently not been updated since 2012. I wonder if he’d take $5K or $10K for the tower, now.

    #23552
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    Aeolius
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    How about an unused offshore platform, then?
    http://www.networkintl.com/lotdetail.aspx?lot_id=124326

    #23553
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    A huge benefit of Diamond Shoals as it is, is that it already is. By default of it existing, and sold “as is, where is”, it’s fully permitted to be there, by the state and federal governments and EPAs and everyone else who is in charge of everything. It’s also proven to survive direct hits by hurricanes, and from the videos it has amazing potential for using ocean currents for power. It has an intact helicopter deck, and boat hoist, it could have a floating retractable dock fairly easily. The tower is already there, it just needs repairs and lots of tender loving care. It doesn’t need to be put back into original condition, a gotcha of many lighthouses offered for sale. And it’s horn and lights have already been removed permanently by the uscg.
     
    To buy and place a new tower would take years of environmental studies and approvals, $millions in trust for accidents and end-of-life removal, and stacks of paperwork for state and federal permits. And then $millions to get it installed. Plus the new tower would be untested, unproven, and that would be reflected in any insurance costs.
     
    The Diamond Shoals tower would make a great way station for floating seasteads, especially for those who cannot or don’t want to go to land. There is a lot of potential for those who can figure out what the humans want (the one who owns it, and those who would sail past it).

    #23555
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    OCEANOPOLIS
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    It seems that the DS tower sustained some heavy damages in the last few years.

    From Wikipedia: “Two photos appearing on the new owner’s Facebook page[3][4] in 2013, and in Wikimedia[5] dated June 2012, shows storms since the USCG inspection report dated January 2012 have knocked out several large sections of the K-bracing at the waterline, severely compromising the stability of the tower and its resistance to future storms. A more recent photo[6] apparently dated July 2013 shows a third horizontal brace, on the side with the boat lift, may have fallen off.”

    Also, keep in mind that DS is in the middle of the Graveyard of the Atlantic. There is a reason they named it so…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graveyard_of_the_Atlantic

    I did sailed in those waters from Ocracoke, Pamlico Sound all the way down to Cape Lookout and I can tell you from personal experience that those waters are very dangerous to seastead in…Supplying that seastead would be a nerve racking experience even for the most seasoned sailor. Forget about it,…

    #23556
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    Yes, i located those pictures. I also have pics of small boats and a kayak out there at the tower, and small plane and helicopter pictures. All show calm flat water. Granted, there’s also heavy seas, it’s a frequent hurricane zone.
     
    Praps what we need is an incubator approach for removing those features of boats that causes them to sink, and make them more reliable for seasteading? I mean really, using the same ole boat designs that you already know will sink, isn’t all that smart, is it? Same for if the boat is rocking so badly you cannot cook dinner, eat at the table, take a shower?

    #23558
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    Aeolius
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    I e-mailed Dave Schneider, offering half of what I offered last year, should he wish to sell. Can’t say I didn’t try.

    #23559
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    Thanks, Aeolius. As you know, i am committed to getting myself onto the water as fast as possible, in a somewhat organised and non-chaotic fashion, and then sell my real estate to make things better.
     
    A couple months ago, a boy was killed by pit bull dog not far from here, and the next week someone dumped a pit bull out here, and that dog charged me when i was straightening my mailbox (someone hit it with a dozer and didn’t bother to set it back upright). I noted the dog was especially aggressive when i was on my knees with chainsaw cutting the pine tree stumps off at ground level behind the mailbox. A couple of us called animal control and had the dog trapped. But the behavior of the dog and the sherriff’s office led me to hurry not with the boat itself, but enclosing the work space to make it more secure against dogs (walls, steel siding, doors big enough to pull boat trailer thru, etc). If it’s not one thing, it’s another. Months of time and $1000’s wasted on stuff i cannot apply to the boat.

    #23560
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    OCEANOPOLIS
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    How much this guy Dave Schneider paid for it? If I may ask,…

    #23561
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    I think his winning bid was like $11,000, but with misc charges it reportedly came up to $20,000.

    #23562
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    Aeolius
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    Bidding opened at $15,000. He bid 17,200. I tried to bid at the last moment but they would not accept electronic payments.

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