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    Trinidad really seems to be a suitable place but i guess it will just result in another Minerva incident if anyone actually tries it, some nation around will gladly annex it :D…that said, its still good, really good idd, and thanks for kmls it would be better if there were any kmls showing seamounts’ height outside the eez. if u have any pls link with a pm or via this thread smith

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    kmls showing seamounts’ height outside the eez

    Those KMZ files show all the seamounts in their database. The reason there aren’t many outside of any EEZ is because most seamounts at a depth less than 100ft are close to shore in shallow waters and therefore are within some EEZ. There are only a handful of seamounts with a depth less than 100m outside of any EEZ.

    Trinidad really seems to be a suitable place

    The whole area around Trinidad and Tobago is a nightmare of EEZs. You’ve got the Grenadines, Barbados, Carriacou, etc. You’ve got to go out all the way to at least 56W longitude before you hit open ocean and there is nothing…NOTHING….that even comes close to the surface. You are looking at 4000m depths at least, which is nothing I would even want to think about mooring in.

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    Trinidad really seems to be a suitable place

    I meant Vitoria-Trinidade (its still a hell of EEZs tho) My mistake, sorry

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    I think you have made an interesting point here, Patri. I have read all kinds of suggested locations for the first seastead. But, it make more sense to me to build the first seastead in the best place possible. Ideally, such a location will be in an area not subjected to major storms or hurricanes, rogue waves, but outside the 200 nm economic zone of any country.

    I believe the ideal location to be off the west coast of Africa, and between the tropics as close to the equator as possible. Why? The coriolis forces of the earth’s atmosphere tend to mitigate themselves making the tropical zone less intense weather-wise. The tropical storms that do occur don’t become hurricanes until they cross the Atlantic and begin to approach North and South America. This area seems to be away from the rogue wave zones identified by NASA. There are a number of seamounts on which to anchor a seastead, although seamounts are associated with rogue wave formation under some circumstances. Western African nations are experiencing over fishing of their water making them ideal customers for seastead aquacultural products. Many African nations are not in a position to be militarily threatening to a seastead that is a boon to their economies, and potentially takes excessive fishing pressures off their fishing water. Few of them have a navy of any size, or none at all. The only real threat is pirates, who are easily dealt with by a seastead militia that is well-regulated (meaning well armed, organized, and trained).

    It’s something to consider.


    I would suggest the caribbean, especially the part of the caribbean outside the hurricane belt.

    Average wave heights of 2m seem to be a problem that can be handled by many floating structures of moderate size – not only spar designs.

    In this conditions elevating the platform may be not necessary as resting on the surface will be stable enough for the existing wave conditions. If the nkossa barge (46m) is sufficiently stable 60km off the coast of Kongo. A seastar design – with a wave relevant diameter of 50m will certainly be stable enough for the caribbean.

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