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  • #9952
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    xns
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    Hey guys, it’s interesting seeing all the different designs, but here’s an update on our side;

    Hadean just commissioned our hexatoon mould. It’ll be ready in 2 weeks and we’ll have the first hexatoons in the water in 2 – 3 months. I believe Patri might be making a blog post about this since we’re still looking for investors to speed things along. Anyway, good luck with your own projects in your parts of the world, see you guys in International waters one day =)

    King Shannon of the Constitutional Monarchy of Logos.

    #9955
    Avatar of FreedomFighter
    FreedomFighter
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    Awesome! One step at a time.

    I will be 30 months behind you.

    #9989
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    FreedomFighter
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    Well duh, here I am posting things on this topic and most of it’s been covered in the wiki. Don’t I feel dumb.

    #9990
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    xns
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    Little update again, we just MIGHT/MAYBE/POSSIBLY/KINDA LIKELY have a container of hexatoons shipped over to you guys for Ephemerisle 2010. Depending on some cost and logistical issues.

    King Shannon of the Constitutional Monarchy of Logos.

    #10032
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    Altaica
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    Hay xnsdvd, I was wondering why you choose that stacking pattren? I would have guessed you would use Face Centered Cubic or Body Centered Cubic stacking.

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    #10035
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    Pastor_Jason
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    xnsdvd,

    I do transportation and international import/export for a living, let me know if I can help get those hexatoons to the US on the cheap.

    Live Well!

    #10467
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    elspru
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    Here’s a couple of sketches for scale and layout. Bear in mind that these are shells and can be filled with whatever layout will fit into it and float. Also, These are my habitation unit ideas. If I run out of space, I can add another one for some other purpose. Like a dedicated hydroponics unit, water processing, power station, or a machine shop.

    These are meant to be cast in reusable molds with the reinforcements and hatch points cast right in.

    The little dude with the smile is me after I get a couple of these suckers built.

    Here’s a grid floorplan:

    The layout is true for all decks and the hatches can be expanded depending on how deep it needs to be able to go.

    Here’s a different layout for all you Jupiter II fans:

    The strength will come from the shell.

    The reason they need to be able to submerge is for waves and construction. I envision them being added from the sides and bottom. It’s a lot easier to hook something together with out serious wave action. Think of it as space flight, but underwater.

    Yes quite excellent,

    I like your drawings.

    I prefer the grid floor plan.

    advice be less susceptible to roll if

    geometricallly stabilized,

    by being somewhat flat,

    in one direction.

    Kind of like a Cumulus cloud.

    Phi times height equals width.

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    #10509
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    xmaraner
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    Hey guys,

    Looks like great minds think alike. Of course, the idea of tiling hexagons for a seastead goes back at least to The Millenial Project in the 80′s (which I understand was the starting point for SSI). The Hexmod idea and some of the discussion is similar to the Xmaran plan. Xmaran is a trimaran with a hexagonal plan, currently conceived with a ferrocement hull. There is currently no plan to stack them vertically, although I would anticipate structures being built down, rather than up, at some point.

    Xmaran raft

    This is an open source project and we need some good design input. The more help the sooner we can start building. Since the scale is a bit larger than the Hexmod, it may be awhile before we get to that point however!

    http://Xmaran.org

    #10526
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    Carl-Pålsson
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    That’s actually a pretty good idea.

    If you align all the units in one direction you might be able to use the sails for station-keeping of the whole community.

    If you make the outer hulls half as wide as the center (minus the distance to the bordering tile) they’ll line up nicely behind each other.

    The key to making something like this actually happen is a low price. So forget everything about optimizing sailing performance and make it really cheaply.

    xmaraner wrote:

    Hey guys,

    Looks like great minds think alike. Of course, the idea of tiling hexagons for a seastead goes back at least to The Millenial Project in the 80′s (which I understand was the starting point for SSI). The Hexmod idea and some of the discussion is similar to the Xmaran plan. Xmaran is a trimaran with a hexagonal plan, currently conceived with a ferrocement hull. There is currently no plan to stack them vertically, although I would anticipate structures being built down, rather than up, at some point.

    Xmaran raft

    This is an open source project and we need some good design input. The more help the sooner we can start building. Since the scale is a bit larger than the Hexmod, it may be awhile before we get to that point however!

    http://Xmaran.org

    #10530
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    xns
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    Hey guys, I’ve had some time to go over eveyone else’s posts since I was locked out of the forum the last few weeks, but on a side note, Hadean will hopefully have our hexatoons in the water by early August. Here’s some CAD renders.

    In terms of cost, each hexatoon will retail for US$500, which should put the eventual square foot cost at less than $20/sqft. And for something that lasts “forever”, this seems like our best bet for now in terms of cost. Tests are pending of course, and I’ll post our findings as/when we have them.
    Though I suppose I should take the opportunity to thank Admiral Doty and Patri for their financial support and contributing their time/networks =)

    King Shannon of the Constitutional Monarchy of Logos.

    #10538
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    OCEANOPOLIS
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    If I can make few suggestions, when you design the mold, alow for tankage (water or fuel) compartments in the floats and some sort of conduit to run wires and hoses between the floats. What will also help in the long run is to design alowing for attaching accesories like cleats, fenders, windlasses, outboard brackets, handrails, swimming ladders, ect., and also to be able to stack/connect two layers of floats on top of each other for more freeboard and strength.

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    #10539
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    vincecate
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    xns wrote:

    Hey guys, I’ve had some time to go over eveyone else’s posts since I was locked out of the forum the last few weeks, but on a side note, Hadean will hopefully have our hexatoons in the water by early August. Here’s some CAD renders.

    It looks like the 6 parts have only a tinny attachment to the center part and could easily break off. Why is it designed to break so easy?

    #10542
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    xns
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    @Ocean, Those holes and slots are for any possible attachments we might design in future. The holes also allow the hexatoons to be stacked vertically, thus increasing bouyancy/freeboard. You can see examples in page 2 to 4 of the thread.

    @ Vince, It’d take well in excess of 2 metric tons to break the section off, The hexatoon walls are twice as thick(10mm) as the HDPE barrels you used for your seastead model, I hope that gives you an idea of the mechanical stress you can place on them. That and they’ll mostly undergo compression and shear, not tension.

    King Shannon of the Constitutional Monarchy of Logos.

    #10543
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    vincecate
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    xns wrote:

    @ Vince, It’d take well in excess of 2 metric tons to break the section off, The hexatoon walls are twice as thick(10mm) as the HDPE barrels you used for your seastead model, I hope that gives you an idea of the mechanical stress you can place on them. That and they’ll mostly undergo compression and shear, not tension.

    What is the advantage of having the inner part of that grove? What looks like a 2 layer telephone pole, why not stop at the first layer? Without the groves near the center the center and connection to the outer parts could be much stronger.

    #10549
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    xns
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    Having the grooves extend into the center allows for more of the hexatoon to be reinforced and increases rigidity as opposed to just the edges. Remember, these things will float horizontally, so the forces acting on it will cause compression, flex and torsion, not pull it apart in a way that would tear a corner off.

    King Shannon of the Constitutional Monarchy of Logos.

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