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  • #1681
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    chadsims
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    Now we all know (or I hope we do) that at some point a seastead is going to go to war. Whether it be against another seastead for more fertile fishing grounds, or against a land based nation who has decided they want that seasteads economic power.

    The question being, in this future, a large seastead say 10K people. (Very small for a nation) Assuming a population of 2K elderly, 4K to young, and 4K of Military aged people. (Assuming 50/50 men women, which is about norm) Assuming small nation or equal or bigger seastead has declared the war (Larger nations tend to have no real benifits to capturing smaller ones, they get shunned from and by other powerful nations if they do). What’s your seastead defence plan?

    I’ve mentioned before that all citizens would be impromutu militia with acting ‘constibles’ as cops, all elected. (on my seastead) And manditory militia training once a year for all over the age of 10. (Training for a ten yearold is simple weapons safety and shooting). In my mind any seastead over 100 people would be irresponsible to not have some sort of radar. This will help protect from terrorist attacks via scuba divers and small subs. Now, when my colony reached 1K I’d have purchased some sort of police type ocean speed boat. For port security and defence. at 5K I’d have about 5 of them (one per 1K people) and I would add mounted defencive guns at ‘trade ports’. (Most likely two 50 Cal Machine guns mounted but releaseable.) at 10K as a budding city i’d be forced to put funds into airdefence (some russian RPG 7s if I can’t get better) and a helocopter. At 10K people I figure that we’d have 100 Constables (gives a nice 1-100 ratio for police, not to bad), airreal radar, 25 assult rifles (AKs most likely as they are easy to get and hold up to hostile environments like the sea air), 1 helocopter (amphibious), 2 .50 cal, 4 sets of scuba gear and spearguns, sea pointed cameras. (No monitoring inside the seastead but outside is a different matter).

    Now you’ve got an air attack, which would devistate my colony. At 10K a colony wouldn’t have the suplies to wage an air war… BUT we could easily move to evade air attacks be leaving the range of the air in question, with the exception of another seastead, small countries don’t have aircraft cariers. Now that leaves more likely type of attack of water based or helicopter based airassult. (Air Assult is what they did in the movie black hawk down.) Now everyone in my colony is manditory 1 rifle per family (Constibles provide own priamary weapon) and all military aged people are required to appear at summonings for emergencies. Constibles are the ones who lead the training, the training is in squad tactics, each constible has 40 people in his ‘platoon’ each platoon the constible breaks into groups of 10, two 5 men squads in each smaller group. For an air assult type attack I’d use our home turf advantage, I would NOT assult as they where coming down, to caotic. I would actually be mobilizing in near by areas to lunch a multi pronged attack the area that they just landed in. (you’ve got to turn your back on someone) first squad would go in to lay down covering fire, second and third would approach via ‘safe angles’ (not in squad 1’s line of fire) and flank the supressed soldiers.

    For a sea based attack I would use the quick moving boats to try and heard the enemies boats into range of the two 50 Cals, and use the hellicopter to drop explosive charges way out of the range of enemy guns. While a cruiser might seem like it would slaughter any seastead my point would not be to defeat or distroy the ship. mearly draw it where I can do te most damage and ‘retreat’ Let it think we’ve been demoralized and land to finish the ‘take over’. (PS: one squad of 40’s only job would be to keep the children out of danger, I’d be in constant contact with that squad to move away from conflict, it would not be at any one location as battles are fluid and so should the safety of the children.) As the cruiser ‘boarded’ I would then DRAW them towards the middle of the seastead… once their I would be able to effectively surround the ‘marines’ that have boarded and while they are being dealt with a few squads (Depending on how many I could spare) would make a counter assualt on the cruiser.

    Now all of this is assuming that I wasn’t facing a nation of great strength, and the nation wasn’t out to distroy the seastead, as that would be nearly impossible to prevent without missile defences.

    Now alot of my ‘defences’ sound expensive but they really arn’t. AKs can be bought in certain parts of the world for as little as 5 dollars. RPGs for 20.

    Any one see flaws in my plans? Any plans of your own? War happens. The summation of my tactics can be attributed to the one military stratigy that has never failed form a nation never defeated truly… Russia. They have used the draw in and crush method over and over.

    ” A wise man in times of peace prepares for war.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace

    #16106
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    Change the 50s to a Dillion Mini gun (if you can afford them) stay with 50s if you can’t.
    Add a Barrett 50 cal sniper rifle to the Helicopter and to the homebase. Nice to take a engine block out with
    A 30 cal or 2 for close support.

    I hope everyone would support your freedom but know better.

    #16108
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    I’d disagree with some of that. The .50 Cals have more penitration than the Dillion minigun, the minigun does fire cheaper 7.62, but the rate of fire would still get ride of cost savings. Remember I had those posted at locations for defence against bigger ships, I want to be able to get through the hull.

    Agreed for sniper rifles, I’d get two, of different kinds. So i have some choice weather I want one that fires quicker or more accurate.

    No .30 Cals though. AK already fires Fully auto for suppressive fire. Additionally though I might replace one out of every 5 with an RPK. (Pretty much an AK designed to lay down lots of fire.) I think for most combate the 7.62 offers plenty of penitration and a high enough rate of fire.

    ‘Lead, Follow, or get out of my way.’ -Unknown

    #16112
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    Sometimes I have to remember this will not be the US, so have to change thought pattern.

    #16120
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    don’t go to war. People do, LOL.

    The RPK was my weapon back in the days of Naval Academy in Romania. Heck of a weapon, with a longer and heavier barrel than the AK, which allows to fire for extended periods of time without major loss in accuracy due to the barrel heating up. Much accurate than the AK, I can tell you that for a fact and could take 75-rounds drum magazine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Machine_Gun_RPK.jpg

    #16123
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    OCEANOPOLIS wrote:

    don’t go to war. People do, LOL.

    The RPK was my weapon back in the days of Naval Academy in Romania. Heck of a weapon, with a longer and heavier barrel than the AK, which allows to fire for extended periods of time without major loss in accuracy due to the barrel heating up. Much accurate than the AK, I can tell you that for a fact and could take 75-rounds drum magazine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Machine_Gun_RPK.jpg

    Oh I know, I fired it. If you haven’t noticed, ex-american army, and my weapons of choice are all russian. HAHA, they make heck of good weapons. Less accurate than their american counter parts but the durablity and reliability so far greater it doesn’t matter.Would never choose an M-16 over an AK. Unless it was a contest of accuracy. The RPK was a fun shoot. I however would not choose the russian Dragnov as sniper rifle of choice, wasn’t impressed.

    ‘Lead, Follow, or get out of my way.’ -Unknown

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