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  • #465
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    thebastidge
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    Does anyone have URLs for information like ocean depth maps, ocean current maps, and meterological info for open ocean locations? Also useful might be navigational hazard locations: while these areas of submerged hazards are a danger for commercial shipping, they could prove to ideal location for siting and anchoring a habitat.

    #1988
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    #1983
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    #2222
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    Saeble
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    Saya de malha banks… big as Belgium :)

    #2497
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    • Since you need to be off any country’s continential shelf, seamounts are an ideal place to locate. It will reduce anchoring costs and provide additional resources. Great idea thebastidge!
    • “Prosperity is only an instrument to be used, not a deity to be worshiped.”

    #2544
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    “The North Bank is the site of an artificial island project. The name of the island that is to grow around steel structure that had been anchored to the sea floor in 2003 at a depth of 11 meters is Autopia, and it is the projected center of a new micronation of the same name. Mauritius will claim and annex any new piece of land that might emerge in the area automatically, just as occurred in the similar case of the Republic of Minerva on the Minerva Reefs, which is now part of Tonga. Mauritius does already claim the entire area.”

    #2552
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    Id forget about the resources: competing for them is not worth it, but i agree about the anchoring.

    I only just read up on EEC’s, and its not as bad as i thought it was. It seems the only recognized claims by the international community is on resources, meaning we should be able to dwell much closer to land without having issues of sovereignity, and benefit from the better trade connections.

    #2580
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    Squatters’ rights are recognized in most societies. It also depends on how you’re perceived- as a ship or as a home, or as an island. There are areas of the ocean worth mooring in becasue they can support you. There are other areas where life will be much harder.

    • You can no more say that it doesn’t matter where you live on the ocean, than it doesn’t matter where you live on land, it’s just cheaper to take your acquired stuff (home) with you.
    #8404
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    I’m surprised that no one has mentioned the largest sea mount, the Mid Atlantic Ridge. I think it meets all criteria, not near territorial waters, under 1 KM depth, calm waters (waves 0 – 5 feet when I checked. Candidates are : Vladimirskiy Rise, 10deg 47.5 min N, 44deg 46 min W, Min depth 537 m; Rybin Seamount, 31deg 47.2 minN, 12deg 49.4 min W, min 412 m; Researchers Ridge, 15deg 23 min N, 51 deg 05 min W, min depth 760 m; Konstantinov Ridge, 33 deg 35 min S, 31deg 10min W, 497 m; Yermolenko Seamount, 42deg 24.7 min S, 1 deg 33.3 W, min depth 248 m. ref http://www.iho.shom.fr/COMMITTEES/GEBCO/SCUFN/SCUFN17-Report.pdf. There are more but I get tired typing.

    #8406
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    sda1950 wrote:
    I’m surprised that no one has mentioned the largest sea mount, the Mid Atlantic Ridge.

    The only problem I can really see is that it is a very tectonically active region. Lots of earthquakes and such. That shouldn’t cause us any issues unless something really big hits, but it might have an impact on anchoring and mooring.

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    Here is a link to NOAA’s Satellite, Data, and Information Services regarding Oceanographic data.

    Most of it is real-time and updated frequently.

    http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/

    #10210
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    Anywhere near the UK? I’m thinking the Irish sea, North sea, or English channel – all of which have parts that are in international waters. English channel is probably out – too much shipping – and the North sea might be a bit to rough, leaving the Irsh sea. Won’t be as busy when it comes to shipping (I hope), and there’s plenty of islands nearby to buy supplies from. Still inside the EEZ of the UK and Ireland, but I’m willing to take that hit if it allows me to set up a seastead.

    #10212
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    Terraformer wrote:
    Still inside the EEZ of the UK and Ireland, but I’m willing to take that hit if it allows me to set up a seastead.

    It is very doubtful that a seastead will work inside an EEZ. You cannot harness wind or wave energy, catch or farm fish, distill seawater, or dump waste. The nation that owns the EEZ has “sole exploitation rights over all natural resources”. All you can do inside their EEZ is navigate freely and lay submarine pipe and cable.

    #10215
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    Hmmm. I don’t know how the EEZ works in places where two countries are within 400 mils of each other, though – there might be a pocket of international waters. Britain was rather hypocritical when they signed such a treaty, since it places them inside Frances EEZ…

    No-ones going to know, though, and even if they did… I’m a British citizen. That should cunt for something…

    #10217
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    Terraformer wrote:
    Hmmm. I don’t know how the EEZ works in places where two countries are within 400 mils of each other, though

    This happens in lots of places. It’s up to the nations with the dispute to work it out amongst themselves how the EEZs are setup. But there aren’t any “pockets of international waters”…one EEZ ends and the next one begins. If you want to see a really confusing area of conflicting EEZs just look at the island areas around Micronesia, or around Madagascar and the Seychelles.

    I posted a Google Earth kmz file on one of the threads a while back that has all the EEZs layed out nice and neat.

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