Eelco wrote:
Who are you talking to? Certainly not me?
I just explicitly stated Ive never seen such data, and that I dont expect to ever see any.
LOL it sounds like we’re in violent agreement then. Cheers mate.
That was FUNNY guys! Violent agreement in the mash pit!lol:)
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Do you have any data that proves otherwise, except from people who want to ban guns and are willing to lie and distort in order to do it?
Where is the data, from correctly controlled studies, that proves that making law-abiding people disarmed, defenseless and helpless somehow decreases crime?
This can easily be said to either side, because there really haven’t been any appropriately controlled studies, and it turns out that in general studies you can often conclude either way (there are as many papers indicating that the violent crime increases you reference are due to factors not related to gun control as there are papers finding that the banning of guns is causal).
An advantage to seasteading is that it provides for the testing of these sorts of issues – making it easier to form countries makes it easier to implement and test different legal forms. Smaller, more isolated countries also mean more controlled conditions. Nifty, eh?
jcrawford wrote:
This can easily be said to either side, because there really haven’t been any appropriately controlled studies, and it turns out that in general studies you can often conclude either way (there are as many papers indicating that the violent crime increases you reference are due to factors not related to gun control as there are papers finding that the banning of guns is causal).
An advantage to seasteading is that it provides for the testing of these sorts of issues – making it easier to form countries makes it easier to implement and test different legal forms. Smaller, more isolated countries also mean more controlled conditions. Nifty, eh?
Yes, it’s possible that a pair of seasteads may be similar enough and differ mainly in “gun control” that one could call them an experimental pair. Keep in mind that smaller populations generally make for less meaningful results, and that seasteading may select for responsible people interested in self-sufficiency who might not tend towards crime in the first place.
That said, as a matter of principle any culture that claims to value freedom should not be taking away the fundamental right to self-defense from the general population, as is already the case in most countries aside from most U.S. states and to a certain extent Switzerland.
Jeff-Chan 3 years, 8 months ago.
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