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    key ready baysteading floating home caribbean
    Doing this in the Cartagena Marine Cluster Project…Ken is this what you would like? http://yook3.com Have miles and miles of hurrican free protected bay development space 5 minutes in boat from city center. International flight connection, solid development company.

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    Ken Sims
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    Ellmer, as I’ve outlined previously, being not a pioneer type, I need to be part of an actual floating city. (The term “city” being used loosely … it could actually be more of what would be considered a small town.)
     
    Everyone, I was thinking more about the 16x16ft size as I was running my weekend errands. One of those would not be enough, but I think two could be sufficient (barely) with one being the kitchen and general living area, and the other being a bedroom and a bathroom.
     
    Referencing the recent TSI “Floating City Project Report”, I would be wanting one of their 600 square feet units, which is somewhat larger than the 512 square feet of two 16×16 foot compartments.

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    Ken, have been talking with Randy about that, can not go into details but i don’t see happen “town sized” ventures anywhere. What we do here is taking it unit by unit my developer is talking about 600 units. Clustering units is on the table but i think you need to picture that more as a “Marina” than a “Town” in the first wave.
    Imagine a cluster somewhat like this floating foundations instead of stilts not very far from what is out there and working already.
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    The size and make of the units is at the owners wish and can range from futuristic shell to native palm hut style anything can be performed. Squaremeter prices are far below what the Floating City Project is talking about ($5425/square meter) we plan to be below that a factor 3 or more. It is a bit repeating the successful real estate developement model of Palm Dubai on a much less megalomanic scale changing the “sandbank real estate” with floating honeycomb structures that are smarter last longer and have far less ambient impact.
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    Ken said

    Everyone, I was thinking more about the 16x16ft size as I was running my weekend errands. One of those would not be enough, but I think two could be sufficient (barely) with one being the kitchen and general living area, and the other being a bedroom and a bathroom.

     
    You could fill out a 20×20 in the right spot, two of those would give you 800 sq ft enclosed, but i prefer the walkaround of 16×16 enclosed on a 20×20 grid. I was thinking of the “tiny house” approach for the first one: foldout bed, kitchenette, tiny bathroom, general reconfigurable living space, curtains as interior walls. Docking more modules would be gravey. Some people may be outside all the time, and be inside only to sleep or during inclement weather. The 16×16 or full 20×20 seems a happy median for ease of building and relocation, single person, multi-module family, or growing business unit. But it gives the deep-water base floatation unit a standard easily replicated layout too, and a standard module-to-module link-up plan (aka resale and upgrade market). While your module(s) would float, it would be low in the water, like Ocean’s MMK and Ellmer’s pretty pics, and not suitable on it’s own for unsheltered water. With the attachment points for linking and for the deep-water base, slapping pontoons under it for a rough-water transit would be trivial, so would a moderate solitary legs system. As a floating town, on a 20×20 grid chess board, there’d be 20x20ft (slightly more if the cabins are 16×16 enclosed) incremental gaps between each cottage. And don’t forget the possible roof space and the possible (on a legged base) under-deck where you’d hoist your boat up to. It’s a lot more versatile and open plan than a converted cruise ship, and a more practical living space than shipping containers. And significantly lower startup and buy-in costs, on par and compatable with Ocean’s plan. Anyhow, that’s my idea. I figure i’ll do mine all alone, and then a group will make $millions off it and i won’t get a dime.

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    You may be wondering the difference tween the 20×20 and 16×16 i have mentioned. I have put a lot of thought into this. I started as a cost comparison between steel/aluminum in regular 4, 5, 8, 10, 20, and 24ft dimensions. But there’s assorted features that naturally accrue to using certain sizes, and reducing the options also reduces the cost in terms of bulk buys of materials.
     
    The 20×20 is a basic box on a 20×20 platform. Cheap and easy to build, spacey enough, easy to add onto, attaches to whatever no matter how it’s turned (90 degrees at a turn). The 20×20 deck (no enclosed space) would be a nice size to rent weekly for putting camper trailers on for anchoring out by the little bay island, or your favorite fishing spot. It gives the user a 12x20ft deck once the 8ft wide trailer is on it and tied down. Reserve an outside grid space on a stable legged seastead base and have it towed out and hoisted aboard as a vacation getaway at comparably little cost.
     
    The 16×16 plan could be built on a 20×20 deck, giving a 2ft walkaround that can still fit on a 20×20 grid with no mods. But if the 16×16 box is built on a 16×16 frame, it can be broken in half and trucked by anyone with no special permits, if you want to move it onto a hill overlooking the water in Winter, and back into the water in Spring, or vice versa. The 16×16 platform can still use the same legs etc as the 20×20, and the 2ft walkaround can be appended to it. If you build two 16×16 on 20×20 decks, you get a 4ft-8ft gap tween them, to use as you see fit.
     
    If you build 2 of either, place on a legged base rather permanently, and space them one 20×20 grid space apart, you can add two walls, a deck, and the roof for cheaper than building the full floatie between them.
     
    The somewhat small size of a single 20×20 can be offset if the seastead community builds one 20×20 as indoor community space: freezer, pantry, watermaker storage, generator, kayak racks, etc etc. While one solitary person floating about may think nothing of running a loud small genny at 9pm for 30 minutes before turning in, a seastead community could make centralised and more spacious and heavily soundproofed genny, or solar storage, or whatever.

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