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How much would you pay to live on a Seastead?

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    So I think funding could be broken up into 3 different groups.

    1. A group of people who would like to live on the seastead.
    This group would want to be able to pay at the same time as moving onto the seastead. They would probably want to provide some input into what type of living environment they would want.

    2. A group of investors to take the risk associated with having the first seastead built. They would work on the cost estimates and come up with the best business plan and try to get the best return on their investment. Once they have the seastead built they would sell/rent/etc to those in group 1. They would need to come up with funding early and be willing to wait on their return from the initial investment to the start of the income from group 1.

    3. A group of investors to create a manufacturing company. Either through contracting out or forming from the ground up to work toward replication of effort for future seasteads. They would also need some early funding but the bulk of it would come after group 2 has their specifications ready and a large portion of the funding. Much of the investment would go toward being able to replicate the effort.

    Of course the people of the different groups could belong to just one or all of the groups depending upon their goals.

    Group 2 will require the largest amount of funding in the shortest amount of time. But they are basically the group that will get things rolling and have the most impact on the direction of the initial seasteads.

    #23497
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    Sure, but keep in mind that “try to get the best return on their investment” means “sell or rent at the highest possible price point”.

    #23504
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    Japan and Vanatu have an agreement now for the Japanese to improve the Lapetasi Wharf port facility, to accomodate 20,000 TEU (60 20 ft container units per day) for $30 million usd. Currently, the wharf can handle tourist ships or cargo ships. This is the scale of costs someone must pay to “plug into the container shipping”. Spread out over 10 years, if you need 60 TEU per day, that cost is $150 per container, and a container can hold tons of stuff, but the $30 million must be paid first, enough seastead built to hold it and float it all, and then you need an agreement with a shipping company to deliver only <cough> 60 TEU per day. I think unless you have billionaires on the seastead with spare cash laying around, who need that much stuff delivered in or shipped out, aiming for the container business isn’t going to float.

    #23505

    Affortunatly the decisions what does and what doesn’t work in port and city development are taken by business groups that do not caugh over investments of 30 Millions …

    #23506
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    So it’s a business group that will decide if the seastead will become a container transshippment port? What about the people living on it?

    #23507

    Of course 3 digit investments in floating industrial infrastructure are handled by business and investment groups that can put that kind of money on the table – what else did you expect? But that does not mean that there is no place for small ventures catering to needs of the people who run the port. Why not put a bait and tackle supply barge for weekend fishing tours of the dock worker families. Small business in a biotop niche created by big business…

    This is the core of the “cluster baystead” idea, many different floating assets grouped together conveniently around a VENICE business core model, economic niches of any size and make for everybody.

    #23509

    plate seastead
    In the same way as in a land city buildings are “clustered together” a baystead would feature buildings of different sizes, makes, and functions, clustered together. In a baystead tendon anchors can provide a grinding free come together – in the high seas things become a bit more complicated. Draupner waves require big breakwaters or overwash safe concrete shell building.

    Why oceanic business is the next big thing to come:

    http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t56680633/the-reasons-why-oceanic-business-is-the-next-big-thing-to-co/

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