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Getting ECO FRIENDLY renewable resources to power our seastead

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  • #1561
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    Sickor
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    Hi there, I hadn’t seen anything being discussed about powering the seasteads if we are to use the single platform idea and have one city (which I am personally in favor of)

    I was thinking maybe a combination of solar panels on the roofs of buildings, and some form of water/hydro turbine that could be turned by moving ocean water in order to generate power.

    Wind is another good idea (since we are on the ocean) and maybe more affordable as I do not know how expensive a water/hydro turbine would be.

    Tell me what you think!

    #14261
    Avatar of Dervogel707
    Dervogel707
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    Love the idea.

    #14266
    Avatar of Terraformer
    Terraformer
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    Waves only work if you’re not moving with the waves… or possibly will, depending on what system you’re using. Solar I think is the one most people are looking at due to it’s less complex nature. Personally, I’d go with solar for electricty and biofuels (from Kelp) for fuel. Well, personally I’d rather be on a proper island/sea mount (The Rockall Skerries), so wave would be a viable option.

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    #14267
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    have one city (which I am personally in favor of)

    Why only have one city? Is it because everyone is easier to control? Dynamic geography doesn’t work in a single city.

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    #14269
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    Terraformer wrote:

    have one city (which I am personally in favor of)

    Why only have one city? Is it because everyone is easier to control? Dynamic geography doesn’t work in a single city.

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    Seasteading is to Boat Living what Traction Cities are to Vandwelling – simply a matter of scale.

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    No I thought that if a seastead is 1 platform, then i thought that there would onyl 1 city per seastead, I also thought that each seastead would have its own government. I could be completely wrong though. I feel that this would be ideal though.

    #14271
    Avatar of Terraformer
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    Oh, you were thinking of each seastead. Personally, I think each seastead will be more of a village than a city, if that – we’re talking populations in the low hundreds. Say, a multi-familiy seastead. We’ll build Las Vegas later; first we have to establish settlements out there.

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    Seasteading is to Boat Living what Traction Cities are to Vandwelling – simply a matter of scale.

    #14276
    Avatar of Dervogel707
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    I dont think each city should have their own government, we should all be under one government. Maybe slight changes between each city but not a whole new government.

    #14277
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    So you’re going to subjucate any seastead that doesn’t obey you?

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    #14283
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    Ummm no, I thought maybe we would be one nation and each seastead would be a city.

    #14285
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    Dervogel707
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    Terraformer wrote:

    Waves only work if you’re not moving with the waves… or possibly will, depending on what system you’re using. Solar I think is the one most people are looking at due to it’s less complex nature. Personally, I’d go with solar for electricty and biofuels (from Kelp) for fuel. Well, personally I’d rather be on a proper island/sea mount (The Rockall Skerries), so wave would be a viable option.

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    Seasteading is to Boat Living what Traction Cities are to Vandwelling – simply a matter of scale.

    Well wouldn’t we not be moving with the waves. Any way we should have both because at night all we have is moonlight wich does not work on most solar pannels.

    #14286
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    xns
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    There are many commercially available energy generation solutions for seasteads that are “eco-friendly”. I use the term loosely because even solar panels put out huge amounts of pollution during their construction phase. But nitpicking aside you could take a look at;

    http://www.oceanrenewablepower.com/home.htm

    http://www.affordable-solar.com/

    Though my view at the moment is that, if I were to start an energy providing business on a seastead, I’d go with biofuels like methane or biodiesel. They’re incredibly simple systems to run and I don’t produce anything that can’t be broken down by bacteria or re-absorbed by photosynthetic organisms.

    King Shannon of the Constitutional Monarchy of Logos.

    #14291
    Avatar of Dervogel707
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    I dont think be eco friendly will be much of a problem, we have so many ways to get energy using the enviorment.

    #14299
    Avatar of Terraformer
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    Ummm no, I thought maybe we would be one nation and each seastead would be a city.

    There will be plenty of seasteads which won’t want to be a part of your country… it won’t be a single, unified country.

    Well wouldn’t we not be moving with the waves.


    Depends. How cheap do you want your seastead? Designing to go with the waves trades off comfort against cost. Personally, I’m partial to settling areas that are shallow enough to build artificial islands, so wave power would be viable in those instances. However, if I had to settle the open ocean, I’d go with the waves.

    Any way we should have both because at night all we have is moonlight which does not work on most solar panels.

    Actually, it doesn’t work on any… but that problem was solved a long time ago, by the invention of the battery.

    xns,

    I agree with the use of Biofuels do an extent, but I wonder how much we’ll be able to get. Methane can be quite easily produced by our waste treatments systems, but something like Ethanol or Biodiseal would require a lot of Kelp. Though, if we get excessive amounts of fish, could we boil them and use the oil and bones for something? Say we have a tonne of fish, and boil them down and skim off the oil… drain off the liquid and we have a lot of Calcium for building use…

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    Seasteading is to Boat Living what Traction Cities are to Vandwelling – simply a matter of scale.

    #14301
    Avatar of Dervogel707
    Dervogel707
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    xns wrote:

    There are many commercially available energy generation solutions for seasteads that are “eco-friendly”. I use the term loosely because even solar panels put out huge amounts of pollution during their construction phase. But nitpicking aside you could take a look at;

    http://www.oceanrenewablepower.com/home.htm

    http://www.affordable-solar.com/

    Though my view at the moment is that, if I were to start an energy providing business on a seastead, I’d go with biofuels like methane or biodiesel. They’re incredibly simple systems to run and I don’t produce anything that can’t be broken down by bacteria or re-absorbed by photosynthetic organisms.

    King Shannon of the Constitutional Monarchy of Logos.

    Well, even if solar panels create polution they are better in the long run. Plus wouldn’t making a buisness place to hold and sell biofules make even more pollution.

    Why use batteries they have to be charged.

    #14302
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    Dervogel707
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    Terraformer, some solar pannels can use moonlight but not most.

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