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  • #23774
    Avatar of Zutai Abunai
    Zutai Abunai
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    Due to the information I have been getting from this thread, I believe starting a marina or dock, would be a good start. Starting off with a small plot of land, that has access to the road and some utilities, I could have the basic dock floats build outward, so as to start building the larger floats in deeper waters, while using the income of the dock, to finance it all. Making it earn money, will be the hard part, if I get too cheap of land, or too far from a city. Along this route, i could have plastic based rafts sitting nest to slips, to act as yards for those who are using the slip. having the bottles make for a nice medium for the roots to work through, i could also use them as testing grounds for what plants work best with saltwater like this. once the larger floats are made to the scales required for the high seas, and set up for staying at sea indefinitely(food, water, power, etc) we could simply push off from the still running dock, using it to keep make money, while the economics start up for the growing island.

    #23777
    Avatar of OCEANOPOLIS
    OCEANOPOLIS
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    Zutai,

    Anywhere you go, oceanfront property is very expensive. Not only that, but building a marina (labor & materials) is also expensive, plus, there is a lots of federal, state and local red tape and environmental regulations, not to mention competition and the fact that all around the US there is a mafia like organization called Port Authority. PA has a hand of any waterfront industrial, ports, commerce, marina, etc. in major cities in US. Before anything, you will have to grease that hand,…Since you mentioned that money is a problem, you have an extremely high barrier entry here… To be honest, your chances are virtually null to get a marina going.

    I don’t know what your living arrangements are or what your financial situation is, but my advise to you would be to first try to “get a feel” of what’s going on around your local waterfront, how other people are making a living in that marine environment, etc. Maybe you can buy a small boat and start living aboard in a marina, that could be an ice breaker,…

    Little by little you can get some knowledge and start getting involved, do some “wheeling and dealing” around the waterfront, and eventually start something on your own or partner with other for a seasteading project.

    #23779
    Avatar of Zutai Abunai
    Zutai Abunai
    Member

    I would join another project for the time being, but I have not seen one that is going to be ready sooner then in the next few years. All the ones I have seen, are aiming big, and not wanting to go through the small growth that I am aiming to start with. If I could find another project I could get started in the next few months, I would. I would join another project, to branch off of at a later time, giving me all for the time that I am there.
    .
    If any projects are going to be ready to start building within the next few months, I am willing to help you grow, with all I have.

    #23782
    Avatar of OCEANOPOLIS
    OCEANOPOLIS
    Participant

    I was working on something but is on hold for now due to the fact that I got involved in another venture. I really don’t know of any other seasteading projects going on right now….

    #23820
    Avatar of shredder7753
    shredder7753
    Participant

    Hi Ocean. I dont even remember whether I posted my last design:

    35m diameter spar buoy

    #23821
    Avatar of shredder7753
    shredder7753
    Participant

    https://www.facebook.com/3DFantaseaLA

    And I also printed this on a big poster and hung it on Elon Musks front gate (at his home in Bel Air), but I think the security guard threw it away:

    Ad for Elon

    #23823
    Avatar of OCEANOPOLIS
    OCEANOPOLIS
    Participant

    Hey Shreddy,

    It’s good to see that you’re still “on top of things”,… :)

    What the hell have you been up to?

    #23824
    Avatar of shredder7753
    shredder7753
    Participant

    poverty in L.A. I was working in shipyards over a year (San Diego and Alameda), but I got laid off twice. Its rough. Tell me things are going better for u on the Gulf.

    im trying to offer 3D modeling services but theres a ton of competition for that here. (https://www.facebook.com/3DFantaseaLA)

    #23825
    Avatar of OCEANOPOLIS
    OCEANOPOLIS
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    I’m sorry to hear that,…Hope things will work better for you.

    I lived aboard on a sailboat in San Diego between ’91 and ’99. Life was great, plenty of work there at the time. Have you tried the local marinas for work, like marina maintenance? There are a bunch of marinas in SD and all the way up the coast. Also, Long Island is a big port of call, they always had work available there, on the docks or otherwise.

    I’m OK here, for know (I’m not on the Gulf, but on the Atlantic side in West Palm Beach FL) I am planning to move to Key West around Nov. and start something seasteading related in 2015, if everything works out as planned :) Send me a PM with your current email so I can keep you posted. I might need people to help me out (paid help, I mean) and there might be room and board available, on the water, of course :)

    #23827
    Avatar of Zutai Abunai
    Zutai Abunai
    Member

    Ocean, through merging our plans, would you be able to speed yourself along? The fact that mine aims for cheap resources, may help you to start on the path faster, so as to start your full scale project with a more stable base.

    #23828
    Avatar of OCEANOPOLIS
    OCEANOPOLIS
    Participant

    Zutai,

    Everything is possible, given the condition that my plan is compatible with yours so it could be merged into one.

    I don’t know where you are located, but please keep in mind that my project will be located around the City of Key West FL. But for now I can’t do much in regards to that because I am very busy finishing a work project here, and in September I’m going abroad for 1 month vacation.

    End of October is when I’ll be back and plan to move to Key West for good. So my guess is that sometime in November after I’ll get all settled in, we can talk business. But meanwhile, we can exchange notes and see if our projects are compatible.

    If you wish to do so, please send me a PM with your private email and we can take it from there.

    #23830
    Avatar of spark
    spark
    Participant

    I went to see Key West and other places in Florida.
    I like Key West.
    .
    I still have some unfinished business here on the West Coast for 12 more days.
    Depending when things get finished, I will get going to the Tampa Bay area.
    .
    I do have a Florida address.

    #23832
    Avatar of spark
    spark
    Participant

    Tue, Aug 19, 2014
    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/man-rescued-trying-sail-us-300-dinghy-152404511.html#gdygIe8
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    A man has been rescued five miles off the Dorset coast while
    attempting to sail to America in a £300 dinghy.
    The 30-year-old Bulgarian national bought the 14ft vessel
    from Christchurch harbour on Saturday and then set off on
    his 3,500-mile voyage across the Atlantic.
    Passing yachtsmen raised the alarm after spotting him looking
    seasick in choppy water off Hengistbury Head, near Bournemouth.
    The man, who was alone on the sailing dinghy, refused help when
    an RNLI lifeboat arrived and kept saying: “I am going west.”
    After refusing assistance for 45 minutes, the crew dragged him
    on to their boat and took him to shore.
    Lifeboat crewman Pete Dadds, 41, said the dinghy was taking on water,
    and the man would have died if he had not been rescued.
    The man was not wearing a life jacket, his boat had no lights
    and his only navigational aid was a street map of Southampton.
    Aside from that, he had a passport containing a US visa, hot dogs,
    beans and a bag of biscuits.
    “When we reached the gentleman he didn’t want us there,
    he wanted to carry on his way,” Mr Dadds said.
    “We were not happy leaving him out there.
    He kept saying ‘I am going west’.
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    Tue, Aug 19, 2014
    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/man-rescued-trying-sail-us-300-dinghy-152404511.html#gdygIe8

    #23833
    Avatar of OCEANOPOLIS
    OCEANOPOLIS
    Participant

    That’s funny. Is UK that bad? :)

    #23834


    The Quest for Interference Freedom.
    http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t56680633/the-reasons-why-oceanic-business-is-the-next-big-thing-to-co/?sort=firstEntry&page=1#comment-56680639
    Too much interference in too many fields of our life – why should one NOT have the freedom to sail over the Atlantic in a small boat and run the risk. Taking risks is part of the human nature. Next to come up in a nanny state safety frame a police force to “avoid that people get killed” by climbing the Everest, forbid of base jumping, forbid of motorcycling, outdoor sports of any kind… new frontiers where risk takers can make a living are needed … ocean colonization is next.

    What happened to nr 12. of the United Nations “universal rights”

    No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference … Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference …

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