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| December 1, 2009 at 10:14 pm #1123 | |
 thebastidge |
“Learn by doing” is a proven, effective method of gaining skills. There may be some info here that you find of use: http://training.fema.gov/IS/crslist.asp If you happen to use it now, on land, rather than at some nebulous future seasteasd, so be it. I think that improving oneself is at least as impostant as improving on one’s ideas for a floating structure. |
| December 2, 2009 at 3:40 pm #8807 | |
 i_is_j_smith |
This is a pretty cool site, I’ve already started browsing through some of the courses. I have a small problem accepting training like this: The Incident Command System, or ICS, is a standardized, on-scene, all-hazard incident management concept. ICS allows its users to adopt an integrated organizational structure to match the complexities and demands of single or multiple incidents without being hindered by jurisdictional boundaries. from FEMA though. I hope these courses weren’t written by Mike “you’re doing a heck of a job” Brown! |
| December 2, 2009 at 5:11 pm #8808 | |
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thebastidge |
FEMA is not the problem, and wasn’t during Katrina. There is a system, it works well, and it wasn’t used properly by the locals in that case. FEMA is a resource for training and preparation, not meant to take over an emergency. Local government has the responsibility to prepare, develop (and follow!) their own plans. FEMA is meant to mobilize resources in the aftermath of a presidential delcaration of disaster, which can ONLY be made in response to a request for assistance. That pesky federalism doctrine again. |
| December 3, 2009 at 3:57 pm #8818 | |
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i_is_j_smith |
I didn’t think the president had to declare a state of emergency. I thought the governor of the state declares their own state of emergency and only makes a FEMA request under the Stafford Act if they don’t think they can handle it with local resources. I didn’t think a federal declaration of emergency was required, but I might be wrong. Anyway, I don’t think anyone contests that the local governments dropped the ball when requesting assistance and implementing their evacuation plans. But a huge part of FEMA’s role is to coordinate and fund recovery efforts once they have been activated and that’s where they completely fell apart. They didn’t use resources properly, their staff weren’t trained correctly, they mis-spent and wasted millions of dollars…they simply weren’t prepared for a disaster of this magnitude even after previous exercises (Hurricane Pam) had shown them they needed to shore up vital areas. The final report of the Select Bipartisan Committee to Investigate the Preparation for and Response to Hurricane Katrina tells you all you need to know. They have all of it online at the Catalog of U.S. Government Publications. So when I read a FEMA course on Emergency Planning where it talks in depth about emergency preparedness, proper communications, and prompt responses I have to wonder if anyone there has read their own course materials. But I give them props for putting all these materials up on the web…I’ve already gone through IS-240 and IS-241. I’m looking at IS-242 next and although they all seem to contain just common-sense stuff there are some nice case-studies in there. |
| December 4, 2009 at 3:00 pm #8824 | |
 wohl1917 |
are falling short of the mark, the high standard that made this country great once. That we live in an International Socialist Welfare Police State that has assumed the individuals responsibility for their individual safety and welfare is beside the point! When the TV comes on and says that a Category 4 Hurricane is bearing down on you, YOU need to pick up and leave. You don’t sit there and wait for someone else to come and help you. Now, before you start pointing out the exceptions to that simple statement of fact, I have sympathy for the true victims: the children, the aged, the infirm and those who were in the care of others who were responsible for them who should have taken care of them but didn’t. As for the rest… |
| December 4, 2009 at 6:18 pm #8826 | |
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i_is_j_smith |
So, without the International Socialist Welfare Police State, who takes care of the children, the aged, the infirm, and those who were in the care of others who were responsible for them who should have taken care of them but didn’t? I’m all for personal responsibility, but I can see the need for organizations like FEMA whose job it is to take care of those who can’t take care of themselves. |
| December 5, 2009 at 4:37 pm #8828 | |
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wohl1917 |
‘No one’, at least not before the fact. After the fact, the responsible parties must be held accountable and punished severely for their criminally negligent failure to properly see to their duties and responsibilities. What’s more it must be done in a very public way so that the people may see that justice is done and the guilty are punished as a warning to others who would do the same. That is how you prevent repeated occurrences. Has this been done? NO! A few people lost their jobs. A few others who didn’t have the financial where-with-all to hire good lawyers went to jail. Some, like the Mayor, were actually rewarded for their negligence and incompetence! Did anyone learn anything to prevent this from happening again: NO! You would think that people would take steps to prepare for what might happen, but they don’t. A disaster is a disaster and the recent financial collapse is an example: All the poor SOBs who lost everything… I don’t pity a one of ‘em! This country and the world has been living in a house of cards built with FIAT currency since the ’30s. Anyone stupid enough to go into debt for anything other than a home & land or perhaps higher education in a ‘real’ field like Doctor, Scientist, Engineer or something that enables you to actually ”DO” something, anything, is a FOOL!!!! What’s more, to go into debt knowing that if anything happens, (get sick, car breaks, get fired/laid off) you can’t pay the bills and will lose everything!? Fools! Fools, gambling with their lives and fortunes and their families welfare. Again, I pity the children, the aged and the infirm who depended on such fools for their well being but that’s all. On a side note: before the International Socialist Welfare Police State when things like this would happen, there were places and people to turn too… As I recall they kind of insisted on minimum standards though like people adhering to some code of rules they had (ten of them I think) and believe in some kind of deity or something… Personally, I’ve always felt that God must love the slow witted since he made so many of them! |
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