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  • #13058
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    elspru
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    shredder7753 wrote:

    we have that in common. im resentful about some stuff my mom did too – especially being too clean. she never let me play video games, contact sports, and eventually blocked mtv. now i play video games (mw2) more than anybody, and work on the comp. played club lax a couple years in college (not that well). ironically, she plays games on the comp too, now.

    My parents largely neglected me through most of my childhood, since they were tired from work.

    My mom was busy cleaning, and my dad busy reading fantasy novels.

    My dad is a ‘good boy’ that does what ‘needs to be done’ AKA what he’s told to do,

    it so happens that an English teacher told him to read fantasy novels,

    he’s been doing it everyday since then…

    So I basically got to do whatever I wanted, as long as I did it myself.

    I did play games between the ages of 10 and 14, but then they got boring.

    I’m much more interested in activities that can improve my physical life.

    So instead of fantasy-books I studied magick,

    instead of games, Linux and world-unification.

    im with u on that. hopefully the landlord wont rape u when u go to leave, it could add a considerable cost to the bunny boat.

    I have subsidized housing, so the subsidizers pay for anything that isn’t covered by government paycheck.

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    #13059
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    spruski- i read it. i would suggest erasing about subsidies. it is the google era, and u never know who’s tracking.

    world unification is an interesting cause. so far it seems like the only thing that ever unifies us is war. we need a fully organized war against poverty.

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    #13062
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    help me elaborate on your plan a bit. how much land does everybody get?

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    #13061
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    shredder7753 wrote:

    spruski- i read it. i would suggest erasing about subsidies. it is the google era, and u never know who’s tracking.

    can’t imagine what difference it would make. considering it’s completely legal.

    world unification is an interesting cause. so far it seems like the only thing that ever unifies us is war.

    that would be intersection actually.

    where only what is in common is emphasized, i.e. common-enemy.

    venn diagram intersection, middle highlighted

    union is when all is allowed or accepted, this or that.

    we need a fully organized war against poverty.

    You mean something like how the Spartans would war against the slaves?

    People could all grow their own food and make their own products if they were allowed to have land.

    “Groundbreaking New UN Report on How to Feed the World’s Hungry: Ditch Corporate-Controlled Agriculture”

    http://www.alternet.org/food/150158/new_un_report_on_how_to_feed_the_world%27s_hungry:_ditch_corporate-controlled_agriculture

    Of course if people have their own land,

    then they don’t have incentive to be wage slaves,

    which could disappoint people that like having slaves .i.e. corporations, governments.

    So I think the solution is to set an example of a sustainable tribe,

    that protects their own territory or relocates effectively, and can produce food and products for itself.

    Then other could follow our example and live lives of freedom.

    And that still leaves the option open for people that would like to continue as they are.

    Hence it is unification, allowing all possibilities.

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    #13063
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    shredder7753 wrote:

    help me elaborate on your plan a bit. how much land does everybody get?

    As much as they can keep, defend, maintain. :-)

    But yes, as seasteaders we also have the “land” of boats.

    technically a person requires about 100-300m^2 of land to grow their own food, depending on climate and growing conditions.

    In terms of “rules” or “guidelines” there is the we you net constitution http://seasteading.org/interact/forums/research/philosophy-and-law/a-constitution

    8 is about homesteading, everyone has the ability to live somewhere. and should be allowed to do so, so long as they aren’t infringing on someone elses abilities.

    also barter price-calculation can settle any dispute peacefully, i.e. parties are compensated via pieces or gifts.

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    #13064
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    okay so by observation, the population always grows over time (in the absence of a predator or other threat) – what is the maximum number “n” of population size that could be supported under this “constitution”? be careful! the answer is not infinitity.

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    #13065
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    That’s a very laoded question. Is anyone in this forum qualified to offer a legitimate answer to such a question?

    shredder7753 wrote:

    okay so by observation, the population always grows over time (in the absence of a predator or other threat) – what is the maximum number “n” of population size that could be supported under this “constitution”? be careful! the answer is not infinitity.

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    #13072
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    R wrote:

    That’s a very laoded question. Is anyone in this forum qualified to offer a legitimate answer to such a question?

    shredder7753 wrote:

    okay so by observation, the population always grows over time (in the absence of a predator or other threat) – what is the maximum number “n” of population size that could be supported under this “constitution”? be careful! the answer is not infinitity.

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    very very funny woody. being that there are zero seasteaders in this world (in the way they were described by the TSI founder), if we just limited this entire forum to qualified discussion by qualified discussers we would have… zilch? thanks for your input, numbskull. who said you were qualified to dictate who is qualified? btw – you dont have to be qualified to ASK a question, but you better be qualified to claim you know the answer. you’re not even qualified to spell the word “loaded”.

    spru, i wanted to share a different perspective with you, but i wanted to first make sure i understood your reasoning with that constitution.

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    #13075
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    shredder7753 wrote:

    okay so by observation, the population always grows over time (in the absence of a predator or other threat)

    As people have grown rather docile and sheepish.

    and just as animals, people can kill for sustenance or territory,

    I was certainly hoping on allowing predation to be legal and rampant.

    I figure the globalists which mostly are supporting depopulation anyways would be fine with it.

    - what is the maximum number “n” of population size that could be supported

    The Iargans, our global-socialist neighbours a few light-years away, have a planet with over 30 billion people.

    http://rune.galactic.to/iarga.html

    under this “constitution”? be careful! the answer is not infinitity.

    Well it’s modeled after the laws of the universe,

    so if you consider that the universe is infinite,

    then the amount of beings is also.

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    #13076
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    you lost me on how the population could be infinite under your plan. if everyone is given 300^2 meters and theres only a certain amount of arable land on this planet, and we dont have the resources or technology to inhabit other planets (such as Largan) yet… hows that work? do we just have cage matches, or…? even if the whole ocean was covered with artificial land there it would not be infinite. theres a limit.

    so heres my plan: we develop an open source artificial intelligence, using that software we create tons of robots to do all the work, beam down the space solar power, and start the margherita making!

    spru, who owns the moon (I think this has a lot to do with seasteading, in an abstract kind of way)?

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    #13079
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    Well, as his plan mentions only square meters, and not cubic, you could have people with land a few cm over other people’s land, if you really wanted to get crazy you could even give them 2 or 3 meters.

    But who really needs that much space? Apartment complexes and high rises give that much, but the number wouldn’t be infinite with giving everyone 3m of headroom, so you’d probably have to shrink it down when you got into the hundreds of billions. Unless of course, some people didn’t want a lot of gravity, then you could just keep building the scrapers higher and higher, eventually leaving the atmosphere even.

    And it doesn’t have to be land, it could be ocean too. The ocean can support a diverse plant and animal life that could easily sustain humans. I’m sure there’s someone somewhere in the world right now, that lives entirely off aquatic food.

    #13093
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    shredder7753 wrote:

    you lost me on how the population could be infinite under your plan.

    you said by the constitution…

    the constitution is based on the laws of the universe.

    Therefore the constitution applies to all of the universe.

    There are an infinite amount of beings within the universe…

    if everyone is given 300^2 meters and theres only a certain amount of arable land on this planet, and we dont have the resources or technology to inhabit other planets (such as Largan) yet… hows that work? do we just have cage matches, or…?

    more likely fighting over scarce resources, at the place of the resource.

    so heres my plan: we develop an open source artificial intelligence, using that software we create tons of robots to do all the work, beam down the space solar power, and start the margherita making!

    I’d like to remind you that we can incarnate into robots,

    so really main difference is features and scenery.

    Robots are merely upgraded host-bodies.

    Since likely they will be much smarter, and have capacity to reproduce,

    they could easily just overrun lazy margharita drinkers.

    killing for territory and all that.

    You may have heard of the projected Artilect war.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7001819700508362993#

    spru, who owns the moon (I think this has a lot to do with seasteading, in an abstract kind of way)?

    The Orion Empire/Priesthood :-) is the dominant force on the moon, there are some co-operating chinese/asiatic-looking species with bases also.

    Earth is next, we’re still working on it though grays have already infiltrated the highest strata of governance.

    Got the reptilians empire, and mamalian federation competeing for earth, though only little bit.

    Reptilians are dominant on Mars to the best of my knowledge, some mamalian humans hide underground. Reptilians are generally friendly with the Priesthood.

    And mammalian federation has been rejected by most(all?) governments, they are socialist, and typically request total disarmament for the sake of “love”.

    Orion Priesthood is most compatible with earth, since we accept hybrids, and earth has multiple hominid species.

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    #13094

    man o man, some of us really pretend to move seasteading forwart to a point where it is in condition to be taken serious by mainstream decision makers – linking into the forums to post while smoking weed is not a great contribution…i understand that patri moved the open forums out of sight…on the website…

    #13095
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    As he started the thread i saw no reason not to play along. Some good humor never hurt anyone, but the butt of the joke ;-)

    #13098
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    theres no reason we have to talk business all the time. just a little side humor, it strengthens relationships.

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