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  • #1452
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    Hi. I would like to share my submersible Bergstead concept and detail exactly how it can come to fruition. This plan will require an investment expected to fall in the $3-5 million range. It is, however an investment and I will detail how it will profit as a part of this thread. My name is Richard Allen and I am a university graduate and resident of Wilmington, DE. Hold on to your seats!

    This picture shows 4 Bergsteads linked together, in the intermediate stage of a development I fondly call Nu Jimmytowne. Thats a take from the first permanent English settlement in America.

    Please reference the following links for my facts and figures (the list will grow):

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?hl=en&key=tkn-gvJaMVdext1RC_4HStw&hl=en#gid=0

    https://docs0.google.com/document/d/13Yybbvn1HzCXwUpFlWJXQvCzW-ux7VoRynwPESiP3Sg/edit?hl=en#

    #12661
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    What do you mean by “submersible ” in this design – that it can stand limited overwash or that it designed for going underwater, or that it has underwater flooded portions to provide stablity?

    #12662
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    Distorted wrote:

    What do you mean by “submersible ” in this design – that it can stand limited overwash or that it designed for going underwater, or that it has underwater flooded portions to provide stablity?

    hi DH,

    sorry i didnt explain better. a lot of the group was around for a prior convo where i answered that. the top has the entrance door which is a sealable hatch. the grass and tree(s) are just artificial and can either handle submersion or just need to be replaced periodically. all the other physical stuff needs to be tied down or taken inside before goin down. the whole structure then sinks well below the surface either during a terrible storm (1 or 2/yr on avg), or simply if everyone leaves and returns to shore for a period they can submerge it to avoid vandalism or just to keep from being discovered.

    #12663
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    Cool – as a note there has been barge production platforms that have lasted years on the high seas (60nm offshore) and provide good stable work area if you get large enough (40 meters or so)

    #12727
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    The Bergstead

    Liberty for your people.

    The Bergstead model is a fully submersible concrete living space designed to accommodate 24 people for extended periods. It can withstand the worst ocean conditions. Everyone who joins you on a Bergtead is completely protected from all significant threats.

    Link up! Allow other Bergs to join you by coupling their ‘stead to yours. Hinges run along all four sides. That means you can stay connected for many years, or just a few hours according to your choice. Start a new city by inviting hundreds of Bergs to join in.

    Never pay property taxes! Never drydock! Never be outdated! Never pay high maintenance costs! Never be without a personal safe haven! When you purchase a Bergstead, you have a home on the water that can last for centuries!! Put yours out past the EEZ and watch the sun set on governments across the globe.

    All for just $3M!!

    Isn’t your share of the national debt almost as much?

    Call now: 111-111-1111

    #12730
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    Looks like a good modular design. Your docs on google appear to be practically blank, though. So far all I can see are the numbers for the hull.

    A few questions:

    What kind of system are you using for the hinge?

    How much livable space is there inside for this $3M?

    How thick are you making the hull?

    What kind of docking facilities are available for smaller craft?

    Does it have any form of self locomotion, or does it have to be towed by a fleet of tugs?

    You say it can protect you from all possible threats, what kind of missile defense system comes standard? What upgrades are available?

    (The last 2 are jokes, obviously)

    #12732
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    You’re giving them away, brother!

    #12735
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    R wrote:

    Looks like a good modular design. Your docs on google appear to be practically blank, though. So far all I can see are the numbers for the hull.

    A few questions:

    What kind of system are you using for the hinge?

    How much livable space is there inside for this $3M?

    How thick are you making the hull?

    What kind of docking facilities are available for smaller craft?

    Does it have any form of self locomotion, or does it have to be towed by a fleet of tugs?

    You say it can protect you from all possible threats, what kind of missile defense system comes standard? What upgrades are available?

    (The last 2 are jokes, obviously)

    its true the numbers on the spreadsheet havent been worked up yet. im more motivated when other people show interest.

    for the hinge im thinking like a cross between a door hinge and a train coupling. im not sure really but knowing what i know about engineering im sure there has to be a way. somebody has to be smart enough to figure it out. im more of a layout person.

    theres 2 interior floors and the “dog park” on top. each is around 25m square. so roughly 13,500 sq ft interior and half that outside

    i used to think the hull would have to be like a half meter thick, but i feel like it would be quite sturdy at .25m (steel reinforced concrete). no matter what i think, a team of licensed PE’s would have to specify everything and finalize the design.

    in the picture you can kinda see a crane next to a boat. i think there would just be the one boat big enough for 25 people, and a covered liferaft in case something happened while the boat was away. remember this is for 200 miles offshore. expensive to have lots of boats out there. the boat needs to be designed or retrofitted to withstand submersion repeatedly. the entire shuttle boat would be lifted by the crane and fastened to the deck. heres an example of the form factor; it is a 50′ model but i envision a 45′ (12-14m) one.

    http://www.macgregor-group.com/?id=11758

    if a smaller vessel visits… we’ll find temp. space for it on top. larger ones will just have to tie up.
    initially it would be towed out by a tug, and any long-distance moves would also be performed by a hired tug boat. my 3D model has 2 small electric azipods underneath for station keeping and slow, short moves. diesel motor powers a generator.
    defense is not a joke at all: notice that the four corners have a square platform? handy place to position some weaponry. one of those raised platforms houses the main hatch with a stairwell underneath, another one (opposite) is split in two to house an emergency ladder hatch / potable water tank, a third one has a small bathroom, and the fourth one is a closet where most of the heavy munitions are kept. bro u name it. if it fits in a 2m sealed concrete cube, bring it.
    OCEAN – $3M is giving it away? You are correct. it is called “introductory pricing”. cost only, NO PROFIT. research Amazon.com. they started in Bezos’ garage in ’94 with a business plan he drew up on a car ride cross-country. who is one of the most valuable retailers in the history of the known universe? who didnt turn their first profit until 2001 (after the initial bubble burst)? hopefully we could just sell 5 units at the no-profit level, and have enough HAPPY customers (lots of azz kissing) to get a good rep and inflate the price a bit.
    We ccould make a little extra right away with options an accessories.

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