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Been thinking about seastead economies…

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    And I remembered an ariticle in Wired several years ago…


    It’s four pages long, and a pretty good read, but basically, I talks about a Bluewater Revolution necessary to keep fish stocks available for the growing world population. Huge underwater cages filled with growing fish floating through the oceans going from port to port. One of the concerns is piracy, so if you slapped a few of these puppies under a seastead and motered it about around the Atlantic, in a year you dock back in port with mature fish from what was just fingerlings. Companies could pay us, at first, to watch over the cages, then as you got more money, you could purchase cages of your own, and enter into long term contracts with fishmongers or, eventually, cut out the middle men and make more money.

    It’s a simple way to capitalize on the biggest resource seasteands would have available to them.


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    I was doing some more research on this and found some more information from OceanSpar. I am seriously not being paid to advertise, but this looks like the beginnings of a really good idea for how the seastead could make some really decent money.


    These are still moored, but I think some help from the Atlantic Marine AquaCulture Center at the University of New Hampshire and their 20-ton automatica feeder for the Ocean Drifter could help things get going in the right direction.

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    Of all the business models we’ve ever thought of, aquaculture is my second favorite, after a hotel/resort. So I think very highly of it. But in terms of advertising the movement, and having a place that is liveable and fun, I think “Vegas on the ocean with less rules” makes a better start than “A big fish farm” :). But definitely, someday, seasteads will supply the world’s fish needs.

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    All fish farmed from the ocean in 40 years… some species gone in just three… unless we change how we extract them.

    Instead of hunting for these things, we should treat them as agriculture, and ranching… let’s make a big farm in ideal conditions where they grow, and harvest them sustainably… whilest making a healthy profit to boot.

    I still see the Bluewater Revolution and the Seasteading movement joining hands in the next decade or so and making some marvelous things happen.

    There is no fate but what we make for ourselves. Each to his fate.

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    I don’t represent any demographics very well with this opinion, so I’m not disagreeing from an advertising standpoint, but I’m a bit put off by the “Vegas on the water with less rules” image. If it existed now, I’d visit once if it was close by out of curiosity, similarly to my one visit to Vegas.

    I think that any community with a lot of money coming in will start looking like a nice place to stay. If I move to a community, I would be a great deal more likely to move to one that was founded on fish farming than on casinos, parties, and tourism, just based on the resultant culture.

    Anyway, I don’t know why one couldn’t do both.

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    I think that the first seasteads/micronations will have to use aquaculture as a way to survive. It would be the easiest way to feed your population. Plus if you had a facility to package the fish harvest it could generate income for you and your population. I also enjoy the idea that Patri has about a “Vegas on the ocean with less rules”. That could bring in needed income and economic growth as well. But in the end if you build one of these and you want it to be self sufficient then you have to do some sort of aquaculture or you will never be able to afford food to feed your population having it shipped in.

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    Thanks for the links, Thorizan. The Oceanspar aquaculture work looks very interesting, and the larger model of a freely moving cage is also very interesting. Aquaculture may be an important way to feed the world in future. Seasteads would be in a great position to do it.

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