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  • #1453
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    shredder7753
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    Hi! my name is Rich. I have a few threads on these forums but I wanted to share something I havent before. My artwork. I have been playing with Sketchup for a couple years and I love designing islands that float. You will notice that some of the ideas are far fetched. Actually they all are. But I just enjoy doing it. Feel free to post some of your own but only if you are okay with making them public. I allow anyone to copy these images, but I maintain propriety over certain elements that I developed independently. Don’t forget to mention me – Richard Allen of Wilmington, DE.

    Peach MPS 10K (Marine Population System). This structure has a bubble on top that darkens with the intensity of the sun.
    From another angle. This shows a wind farm off in the distance, to the left. Oasis of the Seas poses alongside.
    What? You’ve never heard of a banana-copter?
    Nu Honolulu MPS 10M. A pre-fabricated city for 10 million people. It is 10km long and over 6km wide. It has 10 residential levels. Other levels provide interior service and recreational space. The top deck is all faux-natural. The airport is within the mountain and has 8 runways capable of landing an A380 on each. It also houses helicopters, autonomous fighter jets, and it connects to the main transportation hub in conjunction with the cruise port and massive train station. 6 littoral combat ships take positions in a zone defense formation.
    Can you take a guess why theres a “volcano”? My mom and I were both dissapointed when I explained that it was hardly avoidable.
    Underneath of Nu Honolulu is the train system and cruise port. What is not shown here is all the massive piping, conduits, and conveyance needed for service distribution and rubbage collection. This is one advantage I see to putting city-size seasteads on semi-submersible platforms. You can hang all the infrastructure underneath where it can be accessed for maintenance, and having a train system is crucial when you reach this size population. When I calculated the water needs, the main water supply line ended up being 12m wide. As a side note, the trains are not actually “trains”. Each one is a single really long mag-lev car, because all the tracks are straight.
    Main subway station. It has 16 tracks that run lengthwise. All 400 stations have 8 tracks that run the width.
    So, um at one point I developed a whole emergency evacuation system. This image shows 250 free-fall lifeboats hanging under a subway station. There are 400 subway stations. Eventually it finally dawned on me… “Rich, where you gonna dock 100,000 lifeboats when they get to shore”? Oopity doopity! But this is why I feel models are SOOOOO important, especially virtual ones. Theres a lot of flaws you can work out in the design process. Then once you build something, you can use the model again to make further refinements before your next itteration. The AEC industry is increasingly relying on BIM, and it will soon make 2D CAD obsolete.
    THATS ALL FOR THIS EDITION. Feel free to ask questions or join me with some of your own artwork.
    #12618
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    OCEANOPOLIS
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    I got some “staff” too. Not as big as yours, I ain’t that “rich” :) Just a small private floating island,…

    #12626

    shredder great thread !

    let me add my 2 cents in form of a nice artwork of what could be a floating family island in concrete shell – click the picture to start the VIDEO

    My pilot projects suggests that we can build it at 331 Euro per ton of displacement for the raw shell (in south america). The island in the video would be some 200 ton shell building.

    Wil

    concretesubmarine.com

    European Submarine Structures AB

    #12627
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    shredder7753
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    Ocean – simple design principle . great work, my friend!

    Ellmer – I never realized that design was so far into development. i always saw the pictures of the outside and figured that was all. one suggestion; maybe tweak the main image so the background matches the sharpness (image quality) of the model. looks to me like this is ready to seek investors! very sexy!

    #12640
    Avatar of OCEANOPOLIS
    OCEANOPOLIS
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    your “2 cents” it’s actually a “Billion cents”….. It is impressive, to say the least, and very well done. All it needs it’s an investor. I wished I had that type of cash :). Remeber when we where talking about WHY? Maybe they might be interested, you never know,…http://www.why-yachts.com/

    #12744
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    shredder7753
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    Pastor_Jason wrote:

    To begin with, I think the prospect of substeads connecting while submerged is unrealistic. I see substeads only submerging when needed. Otherwise they would float at surface level and dock to each other just like a flotilla of personal watercraft. Boards, gangplanks, hinged walkways, rope bridge, etc. When the waves kick up prior to the storm hitting, we all disconnect and dive. Because we have the ability to dive to different depths, we can take a densely packed area and spread out under the surface so as to minimize collisions due to the minimal movement of wave action.

    The fun aspect would be as everyone surfaces again, we’ve got some change in real estate… basically it’s a forced exercise in dynamic geography. The more I visualize life aboard a substead the more I can see solutions to ‘open space’ needs by having solid platforms that can submerge safely to a depth of several tens of meters and resurface again. The only draw back is that none of these open surfaces would be useful for keeping perminent structures on… but we already have our structure on the substead, so these would be like submergable front yards. Is your family a real ‘football family’? Join your ‘yards’ with your neighbors until you’ve got the right sized field to play on.

    Live Well!

    -Jason

    ur idea is interesting because we could use a structure that would just be vacated during the worst weather. this actually pretty awesome.

    heres a different one i came up with before. i like urs better tho:

    so in this image we’re looking upward at a big white box underwater. the white box represents an underwater shared space (yet to be designed), and all the substeads dock up to it below the surface.

    Wil – if ur ever interested i really would like to play with ur substead model and design some interiors to share with the group. if you upload it to the 3dWarehouse it is timestamped with ur info so noone can say they came up with it first. Heres all mine: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?viewer=0423249349996256997438266&scoring=m

    #12772
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    shredder7753
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    You might not be seeing me after this comment Im about to make. You know I have a tendency toward inflammatory comments and this could be the one that causes me to disappear suddenly…

    While we’re on the subject of “Jobs” I want to slip something in without sounding the alarm with a fresh new forum topic: Is anyone willing to admit that we have a major disadvantage with a permanent un-elected incumbent as the leader of this organization? Anyone notice that the donations bar hasnt moved in over a month? Articles referencing the web page havent had many new additions? The leadership has done a phenominal job getting this movement… moving. Right now it needs momentum before it loses steam. Is this movement about any one of us? Or is it really about the betterment of society? Not to be a mutineer here, I think I might have a better “model”.

    A few people could be chosen to be commissioned “Change Agent”-s. Those people with the right qualities and credentials would earn, let’s say 7% for getting donors to chip in. Not everybody would be encouraged to do this, just a select few who represent the spirit of the cause. I’m thinking every 2 yrs a new leader would be chosen as the head representative for the organization.

    I almost expect to get no response from this but, I just didnt want it left unsaid.

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    My work

    #12900
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    elspru
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    shredder7753 wrote:

    Well here it is Wilmer! I kept thinking about doing a mockup but kept putting it off. I hope you guys are impressed. Ya think it could be done for $250K?

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    My work

    “Leadership and do-ership are not the same thing”

    ya, that’s pretty good. other then seems like there is only a cat-door into the engine-room.

    also with marine doors, usually good to have some distance between floor and door, incase of flooding.

    I like how the kitchen was at the back near the anus, and the screen was near the front at the eyes.

    initially I wass daunted by the simple table and chairs with wheels, though I guess it’s a possibility if submerged all the time.

    generally in seafaering craft things gotta be bolted down, or otherwise attached to the hull for safety.

    hmmm, could you make one for a tadpole shaped seastead?

    In terms of storage, I was thinking perhaps can have double-hull, with many compartments, accessible from inside, safety feature and extra storage space duo. On the Mir and probably ISS spacecraft, the Russian cosmonauts would store hard liquors in these spaced between t he outer and inner walls,

    in humans and other aquatic mamals this is known as a layer of fat.

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    #12902

    That is nice artwork. Any interior design seen in business jets or yachts is possible – plus a whole lot more – as you do not have strikt weight limits in a submersible living space bubble. So feel free to add a jaccuzzi – also there is no need to bolt everything down as the living space bubble stays on “even keel” under all ocean conditions this opens the possibility of using standard chairs and other off the shelf solutions form the standard housing market.

    To get a picture how big the living space inside a submersible living space bubble is, how light comes in, check this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch – notice that light comes from above what makes interior design much easier than in a business jet (much less artificial light required)

    We can do the hull for 331 Euro/ ton of displacement. The hull seen in the video above (18m / 200 ton) is for 66.200 Euro –

    In general terms “semi/submersible living space bubbles” seem to be a great and economic way to independent mobile seasteading taking weather and wave concerns out of the equation allowing scaleability from mobile home size to city size.

    concretesubmarine.com

    Wil

    #12904
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    Matt
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    So glad to se all this illustrative material!!!!

    @Wil How can two (or more) Semi submersible living space bubbles be interconnected underwater?

    The answer for bigger living spaces is obviously bigger bubbles, but that means a higher initial cost. For expansion purposes, what would be a method to bind one concrete buble to a new one? A cylindrical concrete tunnel – like the illustration of a molecule – ?

    Can the subs resist demolishing part of its wall when this cylinder is conected? Is there a way to prepare the living spaces to have parts, sections, that wil come off in case of expansion? (Well, yes, it would be like incorporating an extra window that could transform into door)

    The idea is that the resulting connected subs can form one solid structure with aprox the same buoyancy.

    #12898
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    shredder7753
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    whoa whats that there in the bottom left corner?

    Well here it is Wilmer! I kept thinking about doing a mockup but kept putting it off. I hope you guys are impressed. Ya think it could be done for $250K?

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    My work

    “Leadership and do-ership are not the same thing”

    #12872
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    shredder7753
    Participant

    I mentioned before I was gonna re-upload these for RB Wood.

    BERGSTEAD

    24 1-bedroom apartments per “berg”.

    TRISTEAD

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    #12910

    Matt wrote:
    How can two (or more) Semi submersible living space bubbles be interconnected underwater?

    The model for connecting living space bubbles under water is given by existing submarine rescue sistems – it burns down to having a flat area around the hatch and connect flat to flat much like a flange in plumbing. The water pressure keeps the surfaces together – crew can transfer without getting wet or pressure exposed.

    If you think it trough it is much easier to connect neutral buoyant structures under water than connect structures under surface wave conditions – there is no dynamic force on the connection – just hydrostatic pressure which is predictable and manageable.

    No engineering leaps are required – tunnel segments are connected under water all the time in large industrial scale.

    A submarine rescue sistem for transitory connection under water possible even in strange angles (REMORA). / A submarine tunnel segment floated out to be connected permanently to a existing tunnel. (Marmay tunnel).

    Wil

    concretesubmarine.com

    #12920
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    caveden
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    Why connecting submarines with complex structures? Wouldn’t it be easier (cheaper) to just have some inflatable boats attached to the sub with engines that could sink with it when needed? Whenever you want to visit your neighbor you go by boat…

    At least while we don’t yet have enough money to have submarine-cars and submarine-garages in our submarine-houses. :)

    #12922

    we might have this discussion on the following thread instead on the artwork thread…. seasteading.org/interact/forums/engineering/tsi-engineering/open-ocean-capeable-living-space-bubble

    Wil

    concretesubmarine.com

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