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Reply To: Sundiver: On the whole life-cycle

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thebastidge
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“On the whole life-cycle thing- I think a well designed seastead would last 100 years or more. It’s demise will come from a storm, not from old age. That’s different than ships, sort of. With ships the maintenance costs rise to where they’re not economical to operate anymore.”

  • It would certainly be my hope to see such a large investment last as long as a well-crafted home, which could be hundred of years. There are certainly ships still in use (even wooden-hulled vessels) after 100 years. Economical to operate depends largely on what they’re being used for. Your home is not usually operated at a profit, it’s a necessary expense. Once you have committed to a Seastead lifestyle, I think a similar attitude would prevail.
  • Storm, or old age, there’s going to be a time that comes when it is no longer safe to operate as a floating platform, and either it won’t be economical or won’t be possible to maintain it with an acceptable margin of safety (which margin may well vary from one individual to the next.) at that point it is good to have planned for disposal, and/or a continuing purpose. Anyway, I’m not entirely convinced that floating seasteads are a better idea than artificial island seasteads. How elegant would it be to combine them in a lifecycle plan?
  • As for the ocean commons, how is dumping it in the open ocean better or worse than using it for a reef project? As I said, someone will object no matter what you do- people are contrarian. Counter to some people’s ideas, not everything humanity does is necessarily pollution and Gaia-rape. I mentioned being ecologically sound, stripping such a structure of anything useful and/or harmful, but people will blow past that right into their own projected assumptions if they’re so inclined. I don’t see a concrete (of any flavour) seastead selling for scrap value enough to cover the costs of disposal on land. How is Joe at Reefmakers going to be more qualified to decide what to do with my failing seastead after 50 or 100 years of use than I or my heirs will be at that time? We’ll have plenty of time to figure it out. Anyway, dropping a huge chunk of concrete into the ocean is probably more ecologically sound than re-roofing my house with fiberglass-and-tar shingles every ten years, like most people do. Start with low hanging fruit. The beam in your eye before the mote in mine kinda thing.
  • I take your points on maintenance capabilities very seriously. I’m here for dialogue and I completely understand that my own uninformed opinions are not as valid as other people’s in some areas.



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