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Reply To: Lasse Birk Olesen

Home Forums Community IRL GTGs Seasteading Outpost: Belize Reply To: Lasse Birk Olesen

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Lasse wrote:

I’m not saying you should build the seastead on the ocean. But building a seastead on land to handle 10 meter waves is a different story than building a seastead to handle 5 meter waves.

Waves are probably the single most powerful and price-raising force you have to deal with on the ocean. The energy carried by a wave increases by the square of it’s height so just doubling the wave height from 5 to 10 meters results in quadrupling the factor of units of energy from 25 to 100! Your seastead has to be able to withstand this force. There have been reports of even large ships being, not just turned over, but crushed by waves.

There is no doubt that it will be an easier engineering task to design for calm waters and it will be much cheaper to build as well. This means that the ultimate goal of the Seasteading Outpost, to build a functional seastead for international waters, can be achieved sooner if it is built with direct access to calm international waters.

I feel like I’m talking to a wall on this topic, so I’ll address it one more time then I don’t want to hear anything more about “wave height being a factor in Seastead Outpost location”. Lasse, you are right about wave height being a HUGE factor in seastead design. Seasteads I imagine will need to be able to deal with very large waves as they will travel the globe. This is a factor for seastead design. This question has NOTHING to do with where a group of ‘steaders settle to work on seasteading designs and technology.

Either way, the point is moot. Belize has one of the largest barrier reefs in the world sheltering her waters. Wave height rarely rises above 1 meter and is often at half that height. Further, we may be locating in a sheltered lagoon which opens into the caribbean sea (international waters access is mandatory), which further reduces waves in our operating area. The Caribbean in general has tons of “sheltered areas” due to the proliferation of islands so in the event of a storm we’ll have several nooks to choose from to wait out the weather.

So to summarize: Wave height is a factor for seastead design and has nothing to do with the location of a seastead outpost. Even if this factor was determined to be an important one, Belize has low waves (especially where we’re looking) so the point is moot either way. Now this thread can get back to the work of building a seastead outpost in Belize, I don’t want to see anymore posts about wave height. Those posts should be directed to another thread like this one:

http://www.seasteading.org/interact/forums/engineering/structure-designs/defeating-waves-through-size

Personal questions should be directed to my private messages. Let’s keep these threads focused on topic. Want to bring up another topic? Make a thread and post a link to it on this one if it is relevent.

Live Well!

-Jason



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